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[leafer]

Thanks, Ace. I love wwII and flew warbirds for years back in the days. I was really looking forward to getting into clod but this patch doesn't really boost confidence. I hate to say this but this beta patch seems like a scam or a stall tactic to me. Anyway, if their next title is the opposite of this debacle then count me in. Also, I'm not really new here. I've been coming here on and off for the past months, but the yellow theme really messed with my mind and I just couldn't bring myself to register.

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

I'd love to see what this looks like while strafing rail engines? Does the DCS environment allow steam to be modelled out of the boilers?

Looks impressive but after studying the cockpit, it only looks about as detailed as the modded p-51's of the old IL2 so CloD has room to breath.

Maybe in 2017 I'll be able to fly a P-51 in CloD

I agree that the current terrain and graphics are loooooog in the tooth, though. We'll see what their new engine EDGE brings to the table.

I'm not sure what else you're expecting from a D stang pit, from the pics I've seen it looks right on. ED is owned by The Fighter Collection a company that owns the largest fleet of real warbirds in EU. They rebuild these machine to get them airworthy and fly them at airshows.

Clod should have room to breath since it's a dedicated wwII sim which DCS is not. Also, DCS P-51D is in beta.

Brand new stang pit will get some grime with mods soon i reckon. its the lack of character through heavy usage that makes it appear basic in comparison to those worn out superb cockpits of il2, some of the best graphics work ive seen tbh.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by leafer

Thanks, Ace. I love wwII and flew warbirds for years back in the days.

Ah warbirds.. I use to fly with the 900th! Good times!

Originally Posted by leafer

I was really looking forward to getting into clod but this patch doesn't really boost confidence.

Does seem to be a mixed bag for some.. Seems the folks that had problems before, such that they were very vocal, still have problems. Which leads me to belive it is something to do with their PC.. What with others seeing great improvements.

Originally Posted by leafer

I hate to say this but this beta patch seems like a scam or a stall tactic to me.

Really?

Well lets play detective for a moment.. As in a crime scene.. And ask yourself, what would be their motivation to spend time and money creating a scam? That is to say if they know it is not going to fix anything, what would they gain by providing a scam patch?

For me I see no up side in doing that, thus I don't see it as a scam as much as I see it for what it is

A beta patch

One that they themselves said has issues (disabled features) and are providing it for the sole purpose of getting feedback from the users (logs, dumpfiles). Now we can either be part of the solution here and provide our logs and dumpfiles or we can sit back and complain that this beta is not the final patch

SAVVY?

Originally Posted by leafer

Anyway, if their next title is the opposite of this debacle then count me in.

Which is true of all simmers! I always get a good laugh at those who are so upset that they say they are never going to buy anything made by 1C ever again.. Right!

Originally Posted by leafer

Also, I'm not really new here. I've been coming here on and off for the past months, but the yellow theme really messed with my mind and I just couldn't bring myself to register.

Well even with a few months under your belt your still 'new'! But I hear, ya, the yellow really takes some getting use to!

removed coz its far to off topic.

anyway new Ed engine looks like an excellent update last i seen of it..feel like ive been waiting for the nevada scenery forever though. im at a loss though for the links at ed, anyone remind me where they are? (the new engine)

[TX-EcoDragon]

I'm impressed with it...this FM is not an old one. In many ways, it's the most advanced one I've ever encountered. I'll write more when my gf isn't waiting on me at the dinner table.

Note that I haven't flow CLOD in about a year, but will tomorrow.

[ramstein]

yes sir, same here, I have my DCS Mustang,, and she a real handful, a real beauty who is not another arcade sim... if you don't follow directions in the accurate modelling, you can't even take off or land.. or for that matter start it up.. it's pretty accurate...


and I too hope the next patch is just a patch, the 5 gb dance isn't fun...

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

This feels a whole lot better then CLOD both pre and post alpha/beta patch

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Sharp

This feels a whole lot better then CLOD both pre and post alpha/beta patch

Well as big EL said .. Easy to do when you only have one aircraft and it's on a map that has been around since dinosaurs walked the planet.

In short the DCS game engine has been around for a very Very VERY long time.. About as long as the orginal IL2 engine.. Thus they only have to focus on adding the plane..

Granted at the same time DCS has been strugling to combined all thier games into one for many years now.. And that day looks to be comming soon with the DCS World concept.. So there is that effort too.. But the point being DCS is simply adding to and tweaking a very old game engine.. Where as 1C is dealing with a totally new engine, graphics, dm, fm, etc

[159th_Jester]

I'm pretty sure the DCS game engine was totally revamped during the development of the A-10C.

The landscape certainly does look dated compared to either CloD or RoF, but the engine itself isn't as old as some are saying.

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester

I'm pretty sure the DCS game engine was totally revamped during the development of the A-10C.

The landscape certainly does look dated compared to either CloD or RoF, but the engine itself isn't as old as some are saying.

They have a new landscape engine called EDGE in the works. The first map using it will be Nevada.