Friday Update, April 13, 2012

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Grathos, I'm no expert in these matters but I easily understood what Moggy was talking about. Are you sure you can't work it out for yourself. Seems a bit disingenuous to me.
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So what exactly is your problem?

Fair enough Kendo,

Since you chose to answer on his behalf.

Please explain this sentense that Moggy wrote:

Originally Posted by Moggy

I provided them with ............ I just pray that they didn't use the performance data as I seem to remember they were for the fixed pitch prop and Hurricane Mk.Is when used\transported by the ATA (87 octane fuel).

And tell me what you deduct from this...

~S~

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

Please explain this sentense that Moggy wrote:

And tell me what you deduct from this...

~S~

My deduction:
He sent them the data, the Hurricane data was for a plane that is not currently in-game so he hopes that they did not use the performance data he provided for the Hurricane flight model.

I also deduct that this makes you angry for some reason...

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

He sent them the data, the Hurricane data was for a plane that is not currently in-game so he hopes that they did not use the performance data he provided for the Hurricane flight model.

I also deduct that this makes you angry for some reason...

Indeed,

Why does he write it? To boast about it? That he is the one who screwed up the Hurricane?

ehem #1... hold on a second! Who said the Hurricane got screwed up??? I have not seen the new patch, or have you?

ehem #2... hold on another second! Who said they used his data??? They used Sean's (and he is not Sean).

So, recapitalising: why on earth does he not keep his precious mouth shut and his precious rear part sit tight and wait instead of trying to make us deduct that the Hurricane will be flying with 87oct fuel in the new patch????


~S~

[KG26_Alpha]

Ok


Thats enough speculation in this thread.

Too much personal stuff also.




Wait till the patch is out, then gentlemen, start your whinegines.






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[NervousEnergy]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Wait till the patch is out, then gentlemen, start your whinegines.

I am so stealing that.

[irR4tiOn4L]

Forgive me for my ignorance, but I thought many aircraft were undermodelled, not overmodelled (possible exception spit IIa and hurricane speed)?

Could someone give a definitive yes/no on whether the developers are working on the assumption of 87 or 100 octane fuel, or at least whether the data fits one or the other? How can there be so much disagreement about such a simple thing here?

Also, if the devs are testing the top speed etc on the basis of a testing program that maximises engine management which players may not necessarily be able to replicate, is that an accurate reflection of how test pilots in WWII would have got the aircraft to perform?

All in all, I am more and more baffled about how these aircraft were supposed to match up against each other in fairly basic ways. How is that possible in a simulation on well documented data? Why was this wrong in the first place, for so long?

[335th_GRAthos]

"87 or 100 octane fuel"

Please let's stay away from this madness and I admit I am one of the subjects who threw oil in the fire...

In order to give an answer though, Blacksix has mentionned it somewhere some 2-3 months ago after having spoken with Luthier:
They do not model the engine so accurately in order to be able to do adjustments of the octanes.
Instead, they create the flight model of a specific airplane according to the historic performance data they have in their posession.

~S~

[Moggy]

Does anyone else get the feeling this is turning into personal attack and abuse?

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Moggy

Does anyone else get the feeling this is turning into personal attack and abuse?

I already apologised to you about this Moggy, in my second post. It is not personal, it was just the perfect example of the madness, hysteria and misinterpretation that is rampant in the forum since the week end.

~S~

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

My deduction:
He sent them the data, the Hurricane data was for a plane that is not currently in-game so he hopes that they did not use the performance data he provided for the Hurricane flight model.

I also deduct that this makes you angry for some reason...

So do you think he's a spy for the Blue side??

P.S. it is only levity!!