For better for worse ?

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Giving importance to the whiners, by modifying your behavior according to their attitude, is the worst way to react for MG. A clever company would

1) Ignore the trolls (they are in every forum)
2) improve quality and frequency of their communication, in order to nurture and promote an healthy base of customers.

I'm very sorry to explain the ABC of business and life.

1C aren't business people to be "dealt" with in such manner (well yes, business is involved and I'm not saying as such that they aren't "business people"), they are creative people. Its a whole different approach....
poets, writers, movie makers, artists/ illustrators, actors, set designers, etc, etc, etc - not bean counting number crunchers, but as real people, is the way to go in receiving good response.

For anyone out there... you go and put up your pride and joy and offer that for critiscism (of the such seen here) and how would you feel?

(I can tell you right now how you would feel )

[CaptainDoggles]

David, just so I'm clear, would you say that Luthier & team have provided us with adequate info and communication?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

David, just so I'm clear, would you say that Luthier & team have provided us with adequate info and communication?

I can only speak for me. They have provided me with adequate communication. They're working on a patch, and they're working on a sequel. I thought the video of player controlled ground vehicles looked pretty cool.

I have no idea how much hand holding you were hoping to get.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I have no idea how much hand holding you were hoping to get.

Nice insult, you're real mature.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Nice insult, you're real mature.

Sorry if you see it as insulting, but that is exactly what you are looking for. They are working on an update. If you need more info than that, then you are looking for someone to hold you hand while you wait.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Sorry if you see it as insulting, but that is exactly what you are looking for. They are working on an update. If you need more info than that, then you are looking for someone to hold you hand while you wait.

So, David, now that we are at 7 pages of this very constructive discussion and you , who considers himself as a respectful adult, are already in the " personnal negative comments zone" if I put it nicely, I ask you again my initial question : is the forum better off now ?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by XL5

So, David, now that we are at 7 pages of this very constructive discussion and you , who considers himself as a respectful adult, are already in the " personnal negative comments zone" if I put it nicely, I ask you again my initial question : is the forum better off now ?

It's not personally negative at all. Some people just need to have someone hold their hand.

No, thanks to pointless threads about whether the forum is better, it's not.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Sorry if you see it as insulting, but that is exactly what you are looking for. They are working on an update. If you need more info than that, then you are looking for someone to hold you hand while you wait.

That is also my impression.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

1C aren't business people to be "dealt" with in such manner (well yes, business is involved and I'm not saying as such that they aren't "business people"), they are creative people. Its a whole different approach....
poets, writers, movie makers, artists/ illustrators, actors, set designers, etc, etc, etc - not bean counting number crunchers, but as real people, is the way to go in receiving good response.

For anyone out there... you go and put up your pride and joy and offer that for critiscism (of the such seen here) and how would you feel?

(I can tell you right now how you would feel )

My customers praise and criticize, according to the quality of my services (which involve a certain degree of creativity ...). I feel like a supplier all the time, in both cases.

[mxmadman]

@wolf-rider: it doesn't matter if they're artists or not, the fact is that they are running a business and should conduct themselves accordingly.

Plus, if you're a professional artist and you can't handle extremely negative criticism from just about anyone, you will not be a professional for very long.