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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Battle of France as add on?
Yes, will buy this. 55 58.51%
OK, if for free. 21 22.34%
No, looking forward to Eastern front. 18 19.15%
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:29 PM
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Wow Chivas. Not sure where you went to business school, but it might be time for refresher course. Your saying that having 70% of your customers annoyed and questioning the quality of your product doesn't matter? I would guess that BOM will have 75% less pre-orders than COD had. Not a good business strategy if you ask me. With the shameful release of COD the best thing to do is damage control. The way you do that is good customer relations. What do we get? Luthier thinks we should be grateful that he is supporting the sim 7 months after release. Huh? They need to remember, we rely on them for a fun hobby, they rely on us to get a paycheck. See the difference of importance there?
Preorders are no longer a factor, they've already sold enough of the first product. There is no doubt there are alot of unhappy people and they will wait to see how the next product turns out before buying. What we say or the developers say in the mean time will have very little effect on sales. You don't need to like the manufacturer to buy their product if the product is good, and there is no competition. Even the haters, are still here posting, and waiting, and most will buy if the product if its good. If they fail they fail, and the forum will soon fade away, with a few haters still here saying I told you so to no one.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:38 PM
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Preorders are no longer a factor, they've already sold enough of the first product. There is no doubt there are alot of unhappy people and they will wait to see how the next product turns out before buying. What we say or the developers say in the mean time will have very little effect on sales. You don't need to like the manufacturer to buy their product if the product is good, and there is no competition. Even the haters, are still here posting, and waiting, and most will buy if the product if its good. If they fail they fail, and the forum will soon fade away, with a few haters still here saying I told you so to no one.
Sadly mate I can for the first time part of me can see this as a very real possiblity, this forum is the tip of the iceburg. Sukhoi is just as bad and there's no loss of translation there.
The net is full of terrible reviews as well as some good of course, youtube is crammed with jokes, rants, people destroying their games infront of their cameras and so on.
Now, I'm sure this happens to every game to a degree because you cant please all the people all the time, but I'm getting a very real sense that the people who are negative for cliffs is growing and growing, a simulator being a relatively small neiche market compared to FPS or RPG etc surely will suffer.
If sales dont go as hoped for BoM how can they afford to continue to improve and work on the game.

To not consider this would be business suicide, so they'll have a plan in place to counter act this from happening.

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Old 03-16-2012, 06:51 PM
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Preorders are no longer a factor, they've already sold enough of the first product.
Any reliable source for this asstertion? I decided to uninstall IL2 Cliffs of Dover on march 31st and forget about it. As a matter of fact the sequel will never reach my system.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:34 PM
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Preorders are no longer a factor, they've already sold enough of the first product. There is no doubt there are alot of unhappy people and they will wait to see how the next product turns out before buying. What we say or the developers say in the mean time will have very little effect on sales. You don't need to like the manufacturer to buy their product if the product is good, and there is no competition.
BoM is day 1 buy for me. I just want to fly the new Friedrich.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:42 PM
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BoM is day 1 buy for me.
+1 though a Yak is more my style!
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