Battle for Moscow

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

+1, 2013 at the earliest.

There is still a chance that a publisher forces it out in 2012 in an unfinished state because economic crises which influenced CloD release is not over yet. Is it good or bad? I think it is still better than closing MG like MS did with their MSFS studio once.

We can only hope that Euro and USD do not collapse before we have the game engine in more or less working condition. The rest can be done by modders in the long run.

[bongodriver]

2013? ....wow that actually a generous estimate from the whinge massive.

the BOM engine will be the same one that a patched COD will use......won't it? if it was a whole new engine surely it couldn't be merged (I am talking as a complete layman I know)
so really all they are working on should be the game content....3D models, maps etc.....not a whole game from scratch.....surely? and that surely 'must' happen within this year.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Dear friend, I was there in 2001. When IL2 came out. Its not the same team. Its not the same man in charge. Different times....nuff said.

The same is true of North Korea.......point is many institutions go through a change of leadership but the institutions remain the same.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The same is true of North Korea.......point is many institutions go through a change of leadership but the institutions remain the same.

So you think IL2 and CLOD share the same playability, optimisation (of engine) success, sale and popularity amongs fans?.....not even close...maybe one day but we will see....we wil see...even if CLOD succeed in that, IL2 will still have better start...much better...btw, having a different man in charge could make a big difference....both in success and quality! of the product and in communication with the fans and other parties...On top of that Oleg didnt have IL2 as backgroiund for his team...it was "to be or not to be". Maybe thats the reason of their success...

[albx]

Originally Posted by Ataros

There is still a chance that a publisher forces it out in 2012 in an unfinished state because economic crises which influenced CloD release is not over yet. Is it good or bad? I think it is still better than closing MG like MS did with their MSFS studio once.

We can only hope that Euro and USD do not collapse before we have the game engine in more or less working condition. The rest can be done by modders in the long run.

if to put out early in an unfinished state mean like CoD, and again start to pray them for a patch and thanks everytime they will give a new info like now? I pass, MG can close and Ilya can find a new job in my opinion, i don't care...

[albx]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

2013? ....wow that actually a generous estimate from the whinge massive.

the BOM engine will be the same one that a patched COD will use......won't it? if it was a whole new engine surely it couldn't be merged (I am talking as a complete layman I know)
so really all they are working on should be the game content....3D models, maps etc.....not a whole game from scratch.....surely? and that surely 'must' happen within this year.

You are a dreamer.....

[JG52Krupi]

Well probably the area that will take the longest is the models specifically the cockpits I am still mesmerised by how good they are, hopefully they will one day be fully functional so we have to do realistic engine start ups.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by albx

You are a dreamer.....

Maybe....a positive outlook on life is never a bad thing

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

So you think IL2 and CLOD share the same playability, optimisation (of engine) success, sale and popularity amongs fans?.....not even close...maybe one day but we will see....we wil see...even if CLOD succeed in that, IL2 will still have better start...much better...btw, having a different man in charge could make a big difference....both in success and quality! of the product and in communication with the fans and other parties...On top of that Oleg didnt have IL2 as backgroiund for his team...it was "to be or not to be". Maybe thats the reason of their success...

only speaking personally I have to say COD is already better than IL2 for me, but I am one of the lucky ones that gets good performance at max settings on modest hardware (bless my lucky stars), I am fully aware of the problems others are having and feel accordingly bad for them.
My point about different leadership was just to give the balancing view to counter the 'black and white' mentality that crashes around this place.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I am one of the lucky ones that gets good performance at max settings on modest hardware (bless my lucky stars),.

thats it....we agreed