4.11 F4U Performance

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by LesniHU

Tried. I was able to take off from first try with F4U-1A, 100% fuel+178gal droptank from flag forward on Essex without dipping after leaving deck. That is +- deck length as on Saratoga from front side of biggest superstructure, noticeably less than half of its total length. You need better references and to be better pilot.

How are you managing this? In completely calm conditions, stationary Essex and Saratoga, F4U-1A in clean configuration I can't get it to take off... crash in the water each time. I'd like to consider myself pretty good at carrier ops in IL-2.

Acceleration on the deck is definitely quite slow. On a moving carrier with wind it's no problem even with a loadout but stationary is difficult.

[MadBlaster]

the saratoga is 880 feet overall.

the rl chart for F4U-1 says - clean config with full load of fuel and ammo= weight ~ 12800 lbs. The chart also says for 13100 lb on hard surface and no head wind you need 910 feet.

So, that is a borderline situation. You need either:

1) some assistance from your carrier
2) some headwind
3) or lighten your fuel load.

On the other hand, if you fly F4U-1D or 1C, you probably don't need 1,2 or 3 because it is lighter plane(s).

This assumes the game is modeled correctly.

btw, 178 u.s. gal fuel ~ 1000 lbs.

btw, also saratoga top speed according to wikipedia 33-35 knots.

[sawyer692]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

the saratoga is 880 feet overall.

the rl chart for F4U-1 says - clean config with full load of fuel and ammo= weight ~ 12800 lbs. The chart also says for 13100 lb on hard surface and no head wind you need 910 feet.

So, that is a borderline situation. You need either:

1) some assistance from your carrier
2) some headwind
3) or lighten your fuel load.

On the other hand, if you fly F4U-1D or 1C, you probably don't need 1,2 or 3 because it is lighter plane(s).

This assumes the game is modeled correctly.

btw, 178 u.s. gal fuel ~ 1000 lbs.

btw, also saratoga top speed according to wikipedia 33-35 knots.

Awesome post, great info!

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by sawyer692

Awesome post, great info!

NP. But I wouldn't quite call him a liar. Maybe a smart ass is more appropriate. Like I said, if the carrier is going full tilt (30+ knots)...a little more than half a carrier you should be able to do it according to the chart. So maybe he did that.

[sawyer692]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

NP. But I wouldn't quite call him a liar. Maybe a smart ass is more appropriate. Like I said, if the carrier is going full tilt (30+ knots)...a little more than half a carrier you should be able to do it according to the chart. So maybe he did that.

Thanks for the advice, I edited it.

Full tilt is doable but not without dipping below the deck. Like I posted before, top speed of the carriers at the time was 33.25 knots. I'm curious if he fudged that a bit.

[sawyer692]

Originally Posted by LesniHU

Tried. I was able to take off from first try with F4U-1A, 100% fuel+178gal droptank from flag forward on Essex without dipping after leaving deck. That is +- deck length as on Saratoga from front side of biggest superstructure, noticeably less than half of its total length. You need better references and to be better pilot.

Wow! You are a great pilot! You actually figure out how to defy gravity!

How about posting your flap settings? Prop pitch? Fuel mix? Carrier speed? Wind speed and direction? Mods? Type of helicopter?

Or better yet, post a video or NTRK. Or how about the MIS of the map you used.

Better pilot? hmmmmm

If you are a member of TD I think they should take a second look at you. 3 posts in 2 years and this is one of them??