Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-03-2012, 05:23 AM
icarus icarus is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 323
Default

Merged installs work best when the first game is finished and the second adds content. A merge where the first game is left unfinished and the second is necessary to finish it.... is a very bad buisiness model.

Fix Cod first then merge.. is the best buisiness model for this game.
  #2  
Old 01-03-2012, 05:58 AM
Bewolf's Avatar
Bewolf Bewolf is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus View Post
Merged installs work best when the first game is finished and the second adds content. A merge where the first game is left unfinished and the second is necessary to finish it.... is a very bad buisiness model.

Fix Cod first then merge.. is the best buisiness model for this game.
A bit of reading here and there....

Luthier on CoD : We are still working on improving CoD. No one's abandoned it. There will be patches.
Luthier on sequel(s) : We’ll work along the model similar to the old Il-2. There’s a single progression line from version to version dotted by sequels. For example, we never released a patch for Forgotten Battles that contained new code from Pacific Fighters. The way to get it was to buy PF and merge it into FB. That’s exactly how it will be with CoD


Provided to you by ACE-OF-ACES
__________________
Cheers
  #3  
Old 01-03-2012, 06:59 AM
Chivas Chivas is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,769
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus View Post
Merged installs work best when the first game is finished and the second adds content. A merge where the first game is left unfinished and the second is necessary to finish it.... is a very bad buisiness model.

Fix Cod first then merge.. is the best buisiness model for this game.
In a perfect world its always better to finish the first installment, but sometime shyte happens. Now they have to deal with it, by working on COD, and the sequel, at the same time. Sometimes business models have to be adjusted until you recover from the setback. I don't think its that unreasonable.
__________________
Intel core I7 950 @ 3.8
Asus PT6 Motherboard
6 gigs OCZ DDR3 1600
Asus GTX580 Direct CU II
60gigSSD with only Windows7 64bit, Hotas Peripherals, and COD running on it
500gig HD Dual Boot
Samsung 32"LG 120hz
MSFF2 Joystick
Cougar Throttle
Saitek Pro Rudder pedals
Voice Activation Controls
Track IR 5 ProClip
  #4  
Old 01-04-2012, 03:27 AM
RickRuski RickRuski is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Auckland New Zealand
Posts: 462
Default

Like I have said in a post that seems to have been deleted by the moderators, and if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults as stated by the developers (Sli was broken just prior to release and we are working to correct it, for one). Then in April they stated once again that certain things were being worked on for correction in the coming weeks (still not done). To get these things corrected in a patch prior to release of BfM does not sound likely, regardless of assurances from some moderators and others.

Rick
  #5  
Old 01-04-2012, 09:43 AM
kendo65 kendo65 is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 908
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickRuski View Post
Like I have said in a post that seems to have been deleted by the moderators, and if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults as stated by the developers (Sli was broken just prior to release and we are working to correct it, for one). Then in April they stated once again that certain things were being worked on for correction in the coming weeks (still not done). To get these things corrected in a patch prior to release of BfM does not sound likely, regardless of assurances from some moderators and others.

Rick
That's one way of looking at it. But Luthier mentioned (in the last update I think) that certain aspects (weather primarily) of the game were going to take so long to fix anyway that any patch that brought them into CoD would be released so near in time to the sequel that it made more sense (technically and commercially I assume) to release them integrated into the new game.

I can see why people may not be totally happy or convinced by that but it seems that it is the way it will happen.

I would like to have seen things progress faster myself, but the attitude to the sequel really is a 'glass half empty' or 'half full' choice for everyone - we can either look at it as:

'if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults'

or we can look at it in terms of new aircraft, theatre, map(s) AND updated features that will be included and made applicable to CoD too - that is we're not going to be asked to pay more just to get CoD fixed, we will be getting new things for the money as well.

I'm not totally against your pov, but hopefully the next patch for CoD is going to be the one that does most to improve the game so far.
__________________
i5-2500K @3.3GHz / 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 / Asus P8P67 / GTX-260 (216) / WD 500GB
Samsung 22" 1680x1050 / Win7 64 Home Premium
CH Combat Stick / CH Pro Throttle / Simped Rudder Pedals

Last edited by kendo65; 01-04-2012 at 09:49 AM.
  #6  
Old 01-04-2012, 10:57 AM
Abbeville-Boy Abbeville-Boy is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 196
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kendo65 View Post
That's one way of looking at it. But Luthier mentioned (in the last update I think) that certain aspects (weather primarily) of the game were going to take so long to fix anyway that any patch that brought them into CoD would be released so near in time to the sequel that it made more sense (technically and commercially I assume) to release them integrated into the new game.

I can see why people may not be totally happy or convinced by that but it seems that it is the way it will happen.

I would like to have seen things progress faster myself, but the attitude to the sequel really is a 'glass half empty' or 'half full' choice for everyone - we can either look at it as:

'if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults'

or we can look at it in terms of new aircraft, theatre, map(s) AND updated features that will be included and made applicable to CoD too - that is we're not going to be asked to pay more just to get CoD fixed, we will be getting new things for the money as well.

I'm not totally against your pov, but hopefully the next patch for CoD is going to be the one that does most to improve the game so far.


i can't see much of a chance that i would spend any more money on any cod expanshion, but thats just me
  #7  
Old 01-04-2012, 11:42 AM
nearmiss nearmiss is offline
Global Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,687
Default




Last edited by nearmiss; 01-04-2012 at 11:50 AM.
  #8  
Old 01-04-2012, 12:11 PM
JG52Krupi's Avatar
JG52Krupi JG52Krupi is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,128
Default

Lmoa I hadn't seen the second one before, thanks
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN View Post
Its a glass half full/half empty scenario, we all know the problems, we all know what needs to be fixed it just some people focus on the water they have and some focus on the water that isnt there....
Gigabyte X58A-UD5 | Intel i7 930 | Corsair H70 | ATI 5970 | 6GB Kingston DDR3 | Intel 160GB G2 | Win 7 Ultimate 64 Bit |
MONITOR: Acer S243HL.
CASE: Thermaltake LEVEL 10.
INPUTS: KG13 Warthog, Saitek Pedals, Track IR 4.
  #9  
Old 01-04-2012, 11:53 AM
ParaB ParaB is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeville-Boy View Post
i can't see much of a chance that i would spend any more money on any cod expanshion, but thats just me
You're not alone.

I'm still hoping that CloD finally gets that one patch that fixes all my issues with the sim, but I've pretty much given up hope, 9 months after release. I check back here every 1-2 weeks but I'm beginning to don't care any more.
  #10  
Old 01-04-2012, 03:59 AM
icarus icarus is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 323
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivas View Post
In a perfect world its always better to finish the first installment, but sometime shyte happens. Now they have to deal with it, by working on COD, and the sequel, at the same time. Sometimes business models have to be adjusted until you recover from the setback. I don't think its that unreasonable.
Cool. As long as they don't force me to buy the sequel to get the finished product I bought in the first place. Because that would be a ripoff.
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.