Breda SAFAT 12,7mm guns - A real life account of their real power

[uf_josse]

Have just to agree about porked Bredas......

[PBNA-Boosher]

I'm not so sure. I've been able to get satisfactory kills with them. They're by no means 20mm cannons, but as long as you're up close (within 100m) then they do the trick just fine.

[Monguse]

Agreed, the Bredas as well as other guns are not properly belted.

I for one would welcome the proper belting and hitting power for all munitions before the end of the IL2 Series (4.09). That way no matter how the sim progresses, we have the original authority in control of the munitions.

It is my sincere request 1c make the appropriate changes.

50's API thread
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2830

[IvanK]

So far a lot of subjective comment ref the Breda 12.7mm in game. A browse through this web site might add some real data to the debate:

http://www.geocities.com/capecanaver...n/fgun-in.html

Also in the jpg below from Flying Guns of WWII (Pg 331) by the same authors*whose web site I refer above. The Gun Power column is perhaps the most relevant in this debate. Of all the 12.7mm guns in this table the Breda has the lowest gun Power. In relative terms thats what we see in game imo.

*Anthony G Williams & Dr Emmanuel Gustin , arguably the subject matter experts in this field.

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

OK i took this from my last thread on Bredas.The type of H.E used on the breda 12.7 ammo is PETN!(pentaerythritol tetranitrate, also known as pentrite, or rarely and primarily in German as nitropenta) is one of the most powerful high explosives known, with a relative effectiveness factor (R.E. factor) of 1.66. It is more sensitive to shock or friction than TNT or tetryl, and it is never used alone as a booster. It is primarily used in booster and bursting charges of small caliber ammunition, in upper charges of detonators in some land mines and shells, and as the explosive core of detonation cord. (source wikipedia)