radiators have no influence on speed

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

ace, your complicating things more than it needs to be,

Hardly

What I am asking for is the minimum equipment for most if not all FM error claims by the community at large

That being, provide..

1) A track file for review
2) The real world source your using as a reference

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

david never mentioned flying with the aircraft trimmed straight and level on the bubble, of course that would give more speed whether the radiator was open or not

So, let me see if I understand you correctly..

Even though david said (mentioned) on page 8, i.e.

Originally Posted by David198502

well ace,if you have trimmed the plane, the 109 becomes really steady. you can fly for miles having the crosshair focused on the horizon without any further input

Are you saying that was not david who said that.. Or are you asking me to ignore the fact that david said that?

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

, his point was that havng the radiator closed did not effect his speed no matter what the attitide of the aircraft.

My point is two fold

1) Tom noticed a change
2) 50kph (31mph) is too small of a change for most people to notice

So.. Who should we belive? Tom or David?

Or should we make changes to the FM based off a home coming queen type of vote.. Where we count up the number of people that say they saw no different vs. the people who said they saw a difference and go with the majority?

Keeping in mind most people who complain about speed errors don't even know the difference between TAS and IAS

Or is there a better way?

Personally I think it would be best hat if someone is going to say there is an error with the FM than it is that persons responsibility to provide a minimum amount of proof to support his claim.

In the past with IL-2 that min amount of proof consisted of a track file and a link to the real world data they were using as a reference

TWO THINGS DAVID DID NOT PROVIDED!

Is that too much to ask?

I think not, only because I don't want a change on the FM based on some sort of cheer leader home coming queen mentality

But that is just me!

Your mileage may vary!

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

you have come here looking for an argument, don't you have nothing better to do with your time??

If stating the facts is what you call looking for an argument, so be it. Just know that I and many others don't see it that way. Other like me that want 1C to focus their efforts on fixing real problems, as aposed to chasing down every baseless claim made by the masses

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

the graph YOU provided is evidence backing up davids theory,

Yes, Theory!

I am glad that you agree with me on that much!

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

you even argued about that though you was proven wrong,you argued about the numbers being the wrong way round, ive read so many of your posts and this is just another of those where you make yourself look an idiot by being wrong and not being man enough to hold your hands up and say "hey, sorry guys, i was wrong here, maybe i don't know everything".

So, let me see if I understand you correctly..

Even though I said on page 8, i.e.

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Ah.. ok, your right! I don't read German very well but that does make more sence now!

Are you saying that was not me who said that.. Or are you asking me to ignore the fact that I said that?

Now..

Lets see if your man enough to admit you were wrong! LOL!

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

i was going to put you on the ignore list but you provide me with some comedy in a morning no offense meant of course.

Now that is funny.. This is the guy who just said that "I" came here looking for an argument and that I have nothing better to do!

Seems you were just projecting when you said that!

Nice try Repent, but you have shown your true colors!