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[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

The name Vengeanze has been around since the beginning, and as an elder deserves our respect, irregardless of his misguided ideals. I remember him from the pre-FB days.

well I've been around since the beginning of IL-2 and I don't see why someone else should mock my nickname, not cos I'm offended, I just don't understand what is the point in this conversation. It's very childish me thinks..

[drewpee]

Fact, the more guns the more people get killed.

London riots were shocking but I find it incredible that so few were injured or killed.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by drewpee

Fact, the more guns the more people get killed.

London riots were shocking but I find it incredible that so few were injured or killed.

that's a bit of a generic fact man, according to that theory states like Arizona and Texas should be deserted wastelands..

What was shocking to me about the riots is seeing that they were allowed to carry on for DAYS, and mind you, I'm not blaming the cops on the streets, cos they have no support or adequate directives from the chain of command, it's the system that is utterly inadequate.

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

well I've been around since the beginning of IL-2 and I don't see why someone else should mock my nickname, not cos I'm offended, I just don't understand what is the point in this conversation. It's very childish me thinks..

Sorry 'bout that. My intention was to bring a bit of humour in and not to ridicule.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

Sorry 'bout that. My intention was to bring a bit of humour in and not to ridicule.

it's ok, it's just not the way I think, I agree we need to loosen the spirit a bit, but there are other ways to do it. No hard feelings mate

[Sternjaeger II]

it's surprising btw how the ones without firearms are way more violent and offensive than the armed ones, tells a lot about the spirits really..

[AndyJWest]

Sternjaeger II, you really don't have the faintest clue what you are talking about. Troll elsewhere.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Sternjaeger II, you really don't have the faintest clue what you are talking about. Troll elsewhere.

Well fortunately there's people like yourself that can enlighten us poor imbeciles on what's right and wrong.. I, unlike you, motivate my statements with suitable examples, you don't. You remind me of a certain other forum member that was banned recently and adopted your same style.. you, sir, are the troll here.

[Hood]

So:

US - guns are good because you can defend yourself plus it's a right and you don't want to let that right go because that's giving in to the government. High gun crime but less petty crime per capita.

UK - guns are bad but you pretty much never need to defend yourself. Most people have never owned guns or been involved with or threatened with them so don't really mind laws against them as it isn't a big deal. Not a lot of gun crime but more petty crime.

Italy - same as the US with minor differences. Less gun and petty crime.

To summarise I've looked at various websites with various stats. I have no idea if they're correct or not and I can't bother quoting them as everyone can look themselves. For the US I have no doubt that gun crime in some areas is high and in others non existent. You can't really consider the US as in many ways it is 50 different countries.

What was suprising is that per capita Sweden and Switzerland came out quite high up, though with small populations any gun crime will bump the figures up.

And despite the tragedy of Norway and its currently bad gun crime rating (and just typing that makes me curse myself for almost trivialising the tragedy) it is a fantastic beautiful place with friendly, generous and great people; it just has its share of malcontents or lunatics. Just like everywhere else really.

Anyway, this started off about the UK riots. They're done and dusted now and we won't see them again for a long time. Can we shoot this thread in the head?

Hood

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by Hood

What was suprising is that per capita Sweden and Switzerland came out quite high up, though with small populations any gun crime will bump the figures up.

That's another interesting aspect. Most shootings here are done by organised crime having some disputes like HA fighting Bandidos or russian mafia killing off some ukranian mafia.
Very seldom are the victims innocent.
Instead we're going for world domination by selling furnitures with hidden intelligence in em.