IL2 and Sound Modding

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by GOZR

ElAurens I'm just trying to add sunshine to dark posts
Anyway the only good solution is to have this kind of little punk buster like for host side or maybe .. maybe something has been worked on 4.09m...

I inderstand your position GOZR, although I don't agree.

As for punkbuster...

Go on any FPS forum and see how well it doesn't work. COD4, a game that is very very recent, is riddled with cheaters online using aimbots, wallhacks, etc... and punkbuster never catches it.

Bearcat, I understand you position as well, but cannot agree. I will not give up until and unless Oleg himself comes on these boards and says it's OK to have the sim hacked.

Comprende?


To those who question Crazy Ivan's credibility on seeing hacked aircraft, I can only say that there are few people that I trust more to give honest answers than him. Like I said, go register over at Warbirds of Prey and ask the administrators, they have tracks. My squadmates have seen various things online as well that are way outside any expected behavior, and I assure you they are some of the most trustworthy folks I have ever met.

The Hack is being used to cheat online, sorry if this fact doesn't fit in with your short sighted modder's agenda.

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

this thread shouldda been locked ages ago.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123

Yes Brando, strangely enough I was brought up to believe in right and wrong, honesty and respect too. I guess I must be old fashioned because I value these and the moral integrity that goes with them.

It seems nowadays that all those values mean nothing its all a part of the "want it, and I better get it now", generation of immature, spoilt, ungracious little AHs that blame everyone and everything for THEIR crimes, after all if they can't get what they want, and have to steal it surely it isn't their fault ? They were "FORCED" to break the law .......

The thought processes that some of the hackers are going through to justify their illegal acts are hilarious and give great insights into the twisted logic of those that have no moral integrity and will do mental somersaults to justify wrong-doing.

The entertainment value is high....

Be interesting to see how many more will come into this thread with puffed up senses of outrage that anyone calls them hackers lol...

Wulf this argument is a classical one of the sophism: divide the world in evil and good and place yourself comfortably on the right side. Simple, primitive, basically faulty argumentary but still working in a lot of different situations.

My humble question still remains unanswered: does 1C/Oleg condemn mods ? (not online cheating, not haking, but honest mods).

I don't give a damn about all the eula or legal blabla until the game owners will take a formal position against mods.


Regards,
Insuber

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Sharp

this thread shouldda been locked ages ago.

Why? This is not the ubi forum,and so far it looks like free speech is allowed here.Some misconceptions that people had at the beginning of this thread have been disproved,such as the EULA nonsense,and the no cd/no dvd fiasco.If people can learn things from this thread,then there should be no problem.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

...when one thinks about what was legal during WW2 in Germany surely must realize that right/wrong doesn't always go hand in hand with legal. So crimes term isn't standing in context with right/wrong.

...and all name calling shows us how mature you really are . He,he ... no arguments leads to insults in your honestly and respect world .

OMG...u just dont get it, do u?

By posting garbage like this u just proved Brando and Wolf to be right on the money.

Couldnt agree more with them myselfe.


Right and wrong is only something to stride for if u get something out of it, right?


Do u people even think before u write, do u think beyond the 1 m hemisphere surrounding u, do u considering anything but your own needs...or do u listen to I-Pod and read a comic book at the same time u are forming your all knowing oppinions?

[CKY_86]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

To those who question Crazy Ivan's credibility on seeing hacked aircraft, I can only say that there are few people that I trust more to give honest answers than him. Like I said, go register over at Warbirds of Prey and ask the administrators, they have tracks. My squadmates have seen various things online as well that are way outside any expected behavior, and I assure you they are some of the most trustworthy folks I have ever met.

The Hack is being used to cheat online, sorry if this fact doesn't fit in with your short sighted modder's agenda.

As I said in my other post, proof would give your argument much more weight, such as in pictures or videos.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Wulf this argument is a classical one of the sophism: divide the world in evil and good and place yourself comfortably on the right side. Simple, primitive, basically faulty argumentary but still working in a lot of different situations.

My humble question still remains unanswered: does 1C/Oleg condemn mods ? (not online cheating, not haking, but honest mods).

I don't give a damn about all the eula or legal blabla until the game owners will take a formal position against mods.


Regards,
Insuber

Well, tha fact that u will get banned/threadh locked discussing any mods is a good indication...dont u think?


We are discussing the concept here....propably why it hasnt been locked allredy.

[kristorf]

Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Sharp

this thread shouldda been locked ages ago.

I said that many pages back, dunno what was said but it was not complimentary so now I only read and keep shtum

[Baron]

Originally Posted by CKY_86

As I said in my other post, proof would give your argument much more weight, such as in pictures or videos.

And "we" have to prove anything because..........?



"We" can present tons of evidance...wont make one bit of differance to the hackers.



And yes....even me who never think "cheat" when i play online have seen some pretty wierd stuff online lately, stuff that do not fall under the universal "lag" explenation.

[JG52Uther]

I can post many tracks with no cheating on them,as I record EVERY online flight I make.
Please post your tracks with cheating on them as I would be very interested in seeing them.
Thanks.