HE-111 is a glider

[Korn]

You're sending him to measure after you report it? Why didn't you measure it before reporting the issue? It's not hard, just feather your props and see how many km you can glide from 1km and you'll get the glide ratio. Fyi a modern sailplane easily tops 60.

The He111 should glide pretty damn well since it's got very big wings, in fact its wing area is over 50% bigger than say the B25, which is in fact heavier.

[jf1981]

I just mean to me it does not look like a normal behaviour thought I have not measured.

[KG26_Alpha]

Unfortunately........

Your post is typical of many others in the past regarding aircraft behaviour be it FM, DM or WP.

You could be right, but you will at least have to bring something here other than "its not normal" perhaps..... load out, weather, altitude, speed etc etc etc

No one for sure can say either way what's right and wrong regarding characteristics of particular aircraft in certain circumstances as there are too many variables attributing to different behaviour due to the flight conditions.

Lets just say someone using pure mathematics could "guesstimate" the glide slope and plot a chart.

But another "chart monkey" will come along to disprove it.

Meanwhile...........

Here's some He111 wings minus control surfaces till the next update comes along...........

[jf1981]

flying low (100 m alt) without prop, full load, loosing speed below 200 km/h very slowly, exact measurement I did'nt take note.
Kept flying few hundreds of meter.

Honestly I expected it to fall down, I'm surprised to see it gliding so well.

KG Alpha, I'd expect more understanding from you, I'm just astonished by the HE-111, did I mention something else ? I'm not policeman reporting any fault of the game. Just mentionned I was wondering why that happens, be it normal I would just notice a remarkably well flying aeroplane, nothing wrong.

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by jf1981

flying low (100 m alt) without prop, full load, loosing speed below 200 km/h very slowly, exact measurement I did'nt take note.
Kept flying few hundreds of meter.

Honestly I expected it to fall down, I'm surprised to see it gliding so well.

KG Alpha, I'd expect more understanding from you, I'm just astonished by the HE-111, did I mention something else ? I'm not policeman reporting any fault of the game. Just mentionned I was wondering why that happens, be it normal I would just notice a remarkably well flying aeroplane, nothing wrong.

Well reporting anything is the source of proper testing.
Well did yo mentioned anything else? Yes you did!

See here:

Originally Posted by jf1981

Hi
Its gliding aptitude is unusually good, I expect a FM issue. It goes like a bird without any power.

Well you mentioned a FM Issue without anykind of proof or proper test.
Thats Kindergarten Talk at least.
Now go back and watch Ice Road Truckers!

[SQB]

You guys are being a wee bit harsh today, did the economy start to crash again or something?

If it feels unnatural to him, and you are playing the game, why not test it out for yourself and see if it feels odd to you.

most of us don't play the game with a stopwatch lying around to record everything, its just a curious little thing he spotted....

[jf1981]

HE-111

1) 27 secs for decreasing speed from 300 to 200 km/h at constant alt 500 m.

2) Descending from 500 m to zero measured at 160 km/h (just above stalling speed) : 2'10"
Gliding ratio approx 1/11
Descent ratio 3,8 m/s

3) Same as 2) measured at 200 km/h : 1'37"
Gliding ratio approx 1/11
Descent ratio 5,1 m/s

4) Same as 2) measured at 250 km/h : 1'07"
Gliding ratio approx 1/9
Descent ratio 7,5 m/s

Bleinheim IV
1) 25"
2) Glide at 150 km/h, 500m-zero 1'45"
Gliding ratio approx 1/9
Descent ratio 4,8 m/s

Spitfire
1) 20"
2) Glide at 150 km/h, 500m-zero 1'50"
Gliding ratio approx 1/9,5
Descent ratio 4,5 m/s

BR.20
3) Glide at 200 km/h, 500m-zero 1'15"
Gliding ratio approx 1/8
Descent ratio 6,7 m/s

4) Glide at 250 km/h, 500m-zero 50'
Gliding ratio approx 1/7
Descent ratio 10 m/s

JU-88
3) Glide at 220 km/h, 500m-zero 55'
Gliding ratio approx 1/8
Descent ratio 6,7 m/s

4) Glide at 250 km/h, 500m-zero 50'
Gliding ratio approx 1/7
Descent ratio 10 m/s

G.50
3) Glide at 200 km/h, 500m-zero 56'
Gliding ratio approx 1/6
Descent ratio 8,9 m/s

Gliding at constant speed as smoothly as possible, power off. Fuel full, no bombs.
Rate of descent is maybe more interesting than gliding ratio since I measured it as close from stalling speed, unfavour of gliding ratio I assume.

[janpitor]

Hi,

If your second test was at 200kph, the gliding ratio vould be cca 1/14, at 300kph 1/20...this is possible. B737 has a gliding ratio of 1/26 for example.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto

Well reporting anything is the source of proper testing.
Well did yo mentioned anything else? Yes you did!

See here:


Well you mentioned a FM Issue without anykind of proof or proper test.
Thats Kindergarten Talk at least.
Now go back and watch Ice Road Truckers!

Wow a lot experts and a lot of a## holes here give the guy a break

[kristorf]

Originally Posted by Hunden

Wow a lot experts and a lot of a## holes here give the guy a break

+1

Sooooo many experts, amazing how many He111 pilots there are still living.