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jf1981 05-14-2011 04:51 PM

HE-111 is a glider
 
Hi

I discovered the gliding capability of HE-111 while having failed both engines through inadapted cooling (sigh).

Its gliding aptitude is unusually good, I expect a FM issue. It goes like a bird without any power.

Sven 05-14-2011 05:04 PM

Have you seen the size of the wings?

jf1981 05-14-2011 05:09 PM

Hi
I mean the friction are very small, it keeps its speed & alt for very long time.

Redroach 05-14-2011 05:13 PM

yeah, "a very long time" is certainly regarded as a most legitimate measurement nowadays (see various other threads). This sentence surely deserves a major investigation of the whole development team! Quick! :rolleyes:

jf1981 05-14-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redroach (Post 283219)
yeah, "a very long time" is certainly regarded as a most legitimate measurement nowadays (see various other threads). This sentence surely deserves a major investigation of the whole development team! Quick! :rolleyes:

Go on measure for yourself, it's simply not realistic.

Report back the results if you want to show the way. Have'nt done that yet, I'll wait till the games get patched to a level where it needs fine-tune before starting to post comments again. There is simply too much work to do on the sim now. I think they'll be dealing with all sorts of things so in few weeks / months time, we'll see certainly quite big difference with now.

Korn 05-14-2011 07:13 PM

You're sending him to measure after you report it? Why didn't you measure it before reporting the issue? It's not hard, just feather your props and see how many km you can glide from 1km and you'll get the glide ratio. Fyi a modern sailplane easily tops 60.

The He111 should glide pretty damn well since it's got very big wings, in fact its wing area is over 50% bigger than say the B25, which is in fact heavier.

jf1981 05-14-2011 07:30 PM

I just mean to me it does not look like a normal behaviour thought I have not measured.

KG26_Alpha 05-14-2011 09:06 PM

Unfortunately........

Your post is typical of many others in the past regarding aircraft behaviour be it FM, DM or WP.

You could be right, but you will at least have to bring something here other than "its not normal" perhaps..... load out, weather, altitude, speed etc etc etc

No one for sure can say either way what's right and wrong regarding characteristics of particular aircraft in certain circumstances as there are too many variables attributing to different behaviour due to the flight conditions.

Lets just say someone using pure mathematics could "guesstimate" the glide slope and plot a chart.

But another "chart monkey" will come along to disprove it.

Meanwhile...........

Here's some He111 wings minus control surfaces till the next update comes along........... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1/DSCF2186.jpg

jf1981 05-14-2011 10:24 PM

flying low (100 m alt) without prop, full load, loosing speed below 200 km/h very slowly, exact measurement I did'nt take note.
Kept flying few hundreds of meter.

Honestly I expected it to fall down, I'm surprised to see it gliding so well.

KG Alpha, I'd expect more understanding from you, I'm just astonished by the HE-111, did I mention something else ? I'm not policeman reporting any fault of the game. Just mentionned I was wondering why that happens, be it normal I would just notice a remarkably well flying aeroplane, nothing wrong.

Kongo-Otto 05-14-2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jf1981 (Post 283316)
flying low (100 m alt) without prop, full load, loosing speed below 200 km/h very slowly, exact measurement I did'nt take note.
Kept flying few hundreds of meter.

Honestly I expected it to fall down, I'm surprised to see it gliding so well.

KG Alpha, I'd expect more understanding from you, I'm just astonished by the HE-111, did I mention something else ? I'm not policeman reporting any fault of the game. Just mentionned I was wondering why that happens, be it normal I would just notice a remarkably well flying aeroplane, nothing wrong.

Well reporting anything is the source of proper testing.
Well did yo mentioned anything else? Yes you did!

See here:
Quote:

Originally Posted by jf1981 (Post 283211)
Hi
Its gliding aptitude is unusually good, I expect a FM issue. It goes like a bird without any power.

Well you mentioned a FM Issue without anykind of proof or proper test.
Thats Kindergarten Talk at least.
Now go back and watch Ice Road Truckers!


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