Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion

[addman]

"Never in the field of flightsims has so much been owed by so many to so few"

Thank you Oleg, Ilya and everybody at Maddox games for your dedication to something so rare as a serious combat flight simulator. No butt-kissing just a spontaneous act of appreciation.

Originally Posted by luthier

You need a good video card to play over populated areas. We have huge textures so lots of video memory is important too.

Could you please specify this a bit more. What is the maximum video memory which is still useful. I'm thinking of a 3Gb video memory card, but it could be wasted money, if you told us that more than 2 gb for example don't give any performance increase.

And I'm also very interested in the 64-bit-on-release question.


Thx in advance

[Cpt Dremmen]

why remove my post? i do not understand i was not being rude? my comments about the door on the spit was not a dig just an observation as a real flyer!

My comment on the video was justified too

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

Seconded.

Thirded.

I really appreciate the down to the ground level in the trenches kind of information we're getting. It's fantastic and I'm looking forward not only to Cliffs of Dover but the continued evolution and development.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by FlatSpinMan

What a human response (from Luthier). I really admire the honesty and the amount of info that is shared.

I more admire his patience.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Come on Luthier, you know what Im asking for here, a short video taken on one of your better PC's in the office

What if Lu's PC is the best one they have in the office?
There must be better ones? Sure, but maybe the have Quadras installed - great Gpu, but worthless for gaming.

And the fact they don't really have a business relation to either of the two Gpu manufactures makes it impossible for him to recommend one card over the other.
So no, you will not get the info you're craving for.

Originally Posted by swiss

What if Lu's PC is the best one they have in the office?
There must be better ones? Sure, but maybe the have Quadras installed - great Gpu, but worthless for gaming.

And the fact they don't really have a business relation to either of the two Gpu manufactures makes it impossible for him to recommend one card over the other.
So no, you will not get the info you're craving for.

Swiss your out of touch here go back and read all the thread before making any comments, in case you have not got time I will quickly refresh for you, all that I/we want to see is a video (shot in game) for 3 mins of a fighter attacking a bomber over land on a high end PC, Luthier as already told us that flying over a town or city/airfield on his mid range PC with detail turned up it is not possible to fly because the PC grinds to a halt. What I/we want to know is does it do the same on a high end PC, not a difficult question and something that can be done in 2 mins. Luthier has already told us that they do have high end PC's in the office but they cannot get access to them because they are being used for work, helpfully I have suggested nipping on one when a guy goes home or uses the toilet or has a dinner break, even if Luthier doesn't video the results I am happy to take his word that the high end PC handles the graphics fine.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Swiss your out of touch here go back and read all the thread before making any comments, in case you have not got time I will quickly refresh for you, all that I/we want to see is a video (shot in game) for 3 mins of a fighter attacking a bomber over land on a high end PC, Luthier as already told us that flying over a town or city/airfield on his mid range PC with detail turned up it is not possible to fly because the PC grinds to a halt. What I/we want to know is does it do the same on a high end PC, not a difficult question and something that can be done in 2 mins. Luthier has already told us that they do have high end PC's in the office but they cannot get access to them because they are being used for work, helpfully I have suggested nipping on one when a guy goes home or uses the toilet or as a dinner break, even if Luthier doesn't video the reulsts I am happy to take his word that the high end PC handles the graphics fine.

My turn to refresh:

Where has Luthier ever mentioned there is a better(gamer) PC available?
Quadra GPUs are several thousand dollar a piece(I consider that high-end) - but they are not "for human consumption".

At this point I am pretty sure there are no 480s or 5970s in that office.

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by swiss

What if Lu's PC is the best one they have in the office?
There must be better ones? Sure, but maybe the have Quadras installed - great Gpu, but worthless for gaming.

And the fact they don't really have a business relation to either of the two Gpu manufactures makes it impossible for him to recommend one card over the other.
So no, you will not get the info you're craving for.

Or maybe it just happened to be the one they felt like taking a video of for the majority of us who are quite happy to get whatever they feel like giving us?

Maybe pandering to everyone's specific whims doesn't rate high up on the to-do list because they have some better videos and info coming over the following weeks and their time is better spent with other things that actually matter?

From what I've seen so far I've got a pretty good idea what to expect for performance, including over cities and realize that no matter how you cut it, ideally something around 3.5 - 4Ghz is going to do pretty decently for framerate in these situations. I still think we'll get dips below 30fps over London, but it also looks like we can adjust object density to suit whatever framerate we target too.

That's good enough for me for now.

[kancerosik]

I see that the NEW CoD is not optimiced for panoramical screens. I see the cockpit images as on my 16:9 flying Il2 1946.

I was waiting to see a video where the lateral view is incremented not a video with that "cuts" up and down screen

Pd: hope I'm wrong, what do u think?