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Old 01-01-2011, 02:01 PM
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Why my picture was removed? Is the picture too big? Ok, i will provide the link:

P-51 FLYING ENVELOPE

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Old 01-01-2011, 02:03 PM
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Why my picture was removed?
you mean the flying evelop of the P51? The site where you got it from does not allow that to be displayed other then their own site.
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Old 01-01-2011, 02:07 PM
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you mean the flying evelop of the P51? The site where you got it from does not allow that to be displayed other then their own site.
Then got another from other site. This outrageous since the picture is not from them but from a magazine. There is many styles of that picture. They copied the picture from another site or magazine too.

And the admin gave the wrong site, since the picture was not from this f-16.net!

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Old 01-01-2011, 02:22 PM
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This ultrageous since the picture is not from them but from a magazine.
It's most likely not a copyright issue, but using their server bandwidth.

It's like your neighbour using your WiFi to connect to the internet. If you don't know him, you will object to him using it without asking (or without paying his part).
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Old 01-01-2011, 05:37 PM
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The beautiful curve posted in Ernst chart is great to show how predictable a P-51 can be in some speed and G-load.

I like to notice that "accelerated stalls" occurs even in a Zero fighter.

But I can't stress more the point that in "old" P-51 we don't have just accelerated stall, we have the "unpredictable" stall and "crazy spin". Today we can still easily enter in a accelerated stall with the light inputs of P-51, or die entering in a flat spin.

And the plane is more stable in normal flight now. All other things remains the same.
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:11 PM
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The beautiful curve posted in Ernst chart is great to show how predictable a P-51 can be in some speed and G-load.

I like to notice that "accelerated stalls" occurs even in a Zero fighter.
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You’re right. Accelerated stalls can be achieved with any plane. I practiced them in a 100 hp trainer... The flying envelope of the P51 has nothing unusual. All planes have similar patterns, with different speed listed, as all aircraft obeys the same rules and fly through the same air.
Spin characteristic vary from type to type, of course, and can be more or less benign, more or less dangerous, but this has not much to do with wing loading.
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