Joystick setup tips

[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by julian265

Freddie, you've limited your maximum force on the elevator to 81% of almost everyone else's, which is a disadvantage at high speed when the stick forces are high.

I place more importance on aircraft 'reaction time' IOW when I move the stick I want to feel the a/c 'following me'..
Something like Sakai said when he was in his Zero... 'an extension of himself'... or something to that effect.

[swiss]

which stick do you use?

[K_Freddie]

Me ? worked the same on X45 and X52..

[swiss]

ok, thx, I may try it my x52.

I'm unsure however, whether to mod(relocation of magnets) my stick or not...

[julian265]

Originally Posted by K_Freddie

I place more importance on aircraft 'reaction time' IOW when I move the stick I want to feel the a/c 'following me'..
Something like Sakai said when he was in his Zero... 'an extension of himself'... or something to that effect.

Alright, but reaction time will only be affected by dead-zone and damping, which you've already eliminated.

By ending the sliders at 81%, all you're doing is preventing full force from being applied to the pitch axis, which you can do with 100% sliders by simply not pulling fully back on the stick when you don't need to. You'd still have the extra 19% for when you need it... which will make a noticeable difference in 109s and 38's at least.

I guess trim could make up for this limitation, but there are still no advantages.

[Ernst]

Adjust joystick settings is "cheating" once you use it to counter some bad behaviour of your aircraft in a unrealistic way. I use 100% joystick settings in all inputs, this is nice and the better way to fly in the SIM.You must deal with your aircraft advantages and disadvantages.

[Thunderbolt56]

I use default joystick settings and have since day one almost 10 years ago.

Use whatever works for you, but like the same way you can't "buy" a good golf game through new clubs or "buy" good shooting ability through a new or expensively tweaked gun, my recommendation is to spend more time in the cockpit.

There's no shortcut or substitute for practice.

[Tempest123]

Thats apples to oranges, nothing new is being purchased, its more akin to changing your swing in golf. All makes of stick have different throws and different dead zones/ sensitivities etc. Real aircraft have significant resistance on the stick (non-FBW) when control surfaces are loaded under g, since most computer joysticks have little pulling resistance, and coupled with the default settings there are few indications to show how close you are to a stall/spin. In a real aircraft for ex. a spitfire, you may have to pull close to 60lbs under g to get a stall and snap roll, however in Il2 (w. default settings) you can just pull back a little bit and without warning there is a stall spin.
Changing the stick settings is not cheating, its placed in the sim precisely because there are so many different types of sticks and 1c cannot make a setting that works for all of them. It doesn't change the performance of the aircraft at all, it only changes how you feel the control inputs.

[swiss]

a good excuse to buy the logitech.

[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by Tempest123

Thats apples to oranges, nothing new is being purchased, its more akin to changing your swing in golf. All makes of stick have different throws and different dead zones/ sensitivities etc. Real aircraft have significant resistance on the stick (non-FBW) when control surfaces are loaded under g, since most computer joysticks have little pulling resistance, and coupled with the default settings there are few indications to show how close you are to a stall/spin. In a real aircraft for ex. a spitfire, you may have to pull close to 60lbs under g to get a stall and snap roll, however in Il2 (w. default settings) you can just pull back a little bit and without warning there is a stall spin.

Not only that.. stick/control surface movements are all adjustable (mechanical or electrical)on real aircraft. Not cheating but just making use of what is available.