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Tempest123 06-25-2010 03:54 AM

Joystick setup tips
 
Just a note for people who may be new to Il2 or struggled like I did with overly sensitive controls, particularly elevators. The default joystick profile settings that range from 1 to 100 cause a very large ramp-up in control power, causing erratic flight. They should be linear, i.e 40 to 50 % power across the board only increasing to near 100 at the end, this make the control very even and much more like an actual aircraft, its made a whole bunch of difference to my ability to fly and shoot. I think there is a post over at the Ubi forum about this.
With these settings I find its much more predictable, for instance the P-51 feels like a whole new plane, i can push it near the edge of a stall in a tight turn and hold it, or pull aggressively and snap roll or stall, rudder pedals help a lot here too. Not like the old stall and shudder when it would just snap out from under you. Anyways thats my 2 cents, I see some players online who struggle with sensitivity control issues, esp. in big aircraft like the p-51, corsair and others, as they stall or spin in all turns.

K_Freddie 06-25-2010 07:46 PM

With Roll and Yaw, everything on 100%

With Pitch this is all you need ;)
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/pitch.jpg

Don't forget - No Deadband.. No filtering
:grin::grin::shock:

julian265 06-26-2010 02:27 AM

Freddie, you've limited your maximum force on the elevator to 81% of almost everyone else's, which is a disadvantage at high speed when the stick forces are high.

BadAim 06-26-2010 01:06 PM

Don't forget that different sticks handle this differently, guys. It's not a one size fits all thing. For instance I use about 75%-100% (I use IL2joycontrol) with my x52, that would be unflyable with an x45, which needs more like 10%-100%. I'm sure other sticks are different also. (not to mention individual tastes)

K_Freddie 06-28-2010 07:32 PM

Give it a go...
These settings 'teach you how to fly'
:-P

K_Freddie 06-28-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julian265 (Post 166807)
Freddie, you've limited your maximum force on the elevator to 81% of almost everyone else's, which is a disadvantage at high speed when the stick forces are high.

I place more importance on aircraft 'reaction time' ;) IOW when I move the stick I want to feel the a/c 'following me'..
Something like Sakai said when he was in his Zero... 'an extension of himself'... or something to that effect. :)

swiss 06-28-2010 09:15 PM

which stick do you use?

K_Freddie 06-28-2010 09:18 PM

Me ? worked the same on X45 and X52.. :cool:

swiss 06-28-2010 09:31 PM

ok, thx, I may try it my x52.

I'm unsure however, whether to mod(relocation of magnets) my stick or not...

julian265 06-29-2010 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K_Freddie (Post 167225)
I place more importance on aircraft 'reaction time' ;) IOW when I move the stick I want to feel the a/c 'following me'..
Something like Sakai said when he was in his Zero... 'an extension of himself'... or something to that effect. :)

Alright, but reaction time will only be affected by dead-zone and damping, which you've already eliminated.

By ending the sliders at 81%, all you're doing is preventing full force from being applied to the pitch axis, which you can do with 100% sliders by simply not pulling fully back on the stick when you don't need to. You'd still have the extra 19% for when you need it... which will make a noticeable difference in 109s and 38's at least.

I guess trim could make up for this limitation, but there are still no advantages.


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