Friday 2010-02-05 Screenshots AND Discussion Thread

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Zorin

For the 1000000 time, the graphic designers on the team are NOT building th code and neither have the coding guys chained to their monitors to admire what they have done instead of creating the best AI and whatever else code related. Please, get that in your head!

Exept, the game wont be released before the nitpicking is done (U do know who Oleg is, right?), and that could take eons by the looks of things right now.

Think about it.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Baron

Exept, the game wont be released before the nitpicking is done (U do know who Oleg is, right?), and that could take eons by the looks of things right now.

Think about it.

I don't think your right about this... The original release of Il2 Sturmovik, and all of the subsequent "add-ons", all had patches/fixes soon after their release (and after)...I have also read posts from Oleg where he apologized for not including features and aeroplanes from "up-dates" because their was "no time"...

I'm just not sure the data supports your statement...

[nearmiss]

Whenever you post something like the screenshots for this thread it is like saying, "What do you think"?

Guaranteed...there will be plenty of people that will tell you what they think.

[choctaw111]

Thank you again for showing us another update.
This feels just like the good ol' days.

[Chaos]

Originally Posted by Zorin

For the 1000000 time, the graphic designers on the team are NOT building th code and neither have the coding guys chained to their monitors to admire what they have done instead of creating the best AI and whatever else code related.

No need to state the obvious. While you're debating whether that shoulder patch is the right color or there should really be 8807 rivets instead of 8806, I sit and wonder why they didn't spend more time on aircraft performance because my Spit climbs at 500fpm/sealevel at maximum power.

I'm exagerating of course... but you guys are getting stuck in the details. You're losing sight of the big picture. You can't see the forest for the trees.

I'm sure Oleg and team are doing their best. They're one of the few that still believe in this genre. I support them 100% and I'll be one of the first to buy their sim. I just hope they're not getting bogged down in details that I, personally, believe are not relevant. Not for a flight simulation game anyways...

[Baron]

Originally Posted by proton45

I don't think your right about this... The original release of Il2 Sturmovik, and all of the subsequent "add-ons", all had patches/fixes soon after their release (and after)...I have also read posts from Oleg where he apologized for not including features and aeroplanes from "up-dates" because their was "no time"...

I'm just not sure the data supports your statement...

I think they are setting the bar way higher than they did with IL2.


Hopefully he knows when enough is enough and im sure he does.

[OSSI]

hehe yes the left looks like a Russian soldier after a fight

Originally Posted by Afdn

Please Mr. Oleg
could put the cap pilots with more style, more veterans
thanks

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by Chaos

No need to state the obvious. While you're debating whether that shoulder patch is the right color or there should really be 8807 rivets instead of 8806, I sit and wonder why they didn't spend more time on aircraft performance because my Spit climbs at 500fpm/sealevel at maximum power.

I'm exagerating of course... but you guys are getting stuck in the details. You're losing sight of the big picture. You can't see the forest for the trees.

I'm sure Oleg and team are doing their best. They're one of the few that still believe in this genre. I support them 100% and I'll be one of the first to buy their sim. I just hope they're not getting bogged down in details that I, personally, believe are not relevant. Not for a flight simulation game anyways...

All Zorin wanted to say imho is that the work made (and stillbe done) by programmers isn't something to be shown here in forums. While they're working for BoB Oleg only can show us things made by the other team fraction: the designers.

All of them are working hard. While the results of the designers can be displayed here the work done by programmers has to wait until release to be tested.

The fact that we only can see results done by designers and artists doesn't suggest that programmers are sleeping
I think "your" Spitfire will please you. It not only will have the right amount of rivets, it even will climb faster than "my" Emil, I [strike]fear[/strike] guess

Excuse my bad english

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Really? I read it as saying "if you’ll find anything wrong with our screenshots, please let us know." Clearly though, there may have been some sarcasm involved

I'm sure Oleg didnt mean it at sarcasm, but is there ever a shortage of us not telling them what we find wrong?

[dAMOCLES]

It's entirely possible to get to hung up on detail.

However, Oleg's team are putting a lot of effort into getting the details right, this is no half arse'd shove it out the door job. If they make mistakes, because of unfamiliarity then I'm sure he appreciates the input. It is then entirley up to them to decide if they have the time, energy or need to make changes.

I'm sure Oleg's graphics artists are excellent and if they have worked for him for some time then they probably have a very good understanding and enthusiasm of the history of their armed forces. However a lot of detail about the RAF, Southern England/ NW France will be alien to them, so they are more likely to miss small details because it doesn't jump out them as wrong. If on the other hand you had a late war Mig or Yak flying at the battle of Stalingrad they would immediately know it was wrong, whereas a thick Westerner might be blissfully unaware and happily play along.