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Old 11-02-2009, 10:59 AM
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I'm glad people are happy with the G940.

Since 2002 I've been using an MS FFB2 and still very happy with it. But as usual with heavy used stuff, some problems arose in the years... buttons not eager to work etc.

Recently I received a Saitek wheel & pedals and a broken MS FFB2. So out of two sticks I built a very good one (is as good as new!) and used the internal electronics, switches and pots of the other to expand my throttle-setup. This really will become a HOTAS.

I'v already built my own pedals out of wood, but that one had a gameport interface. Now I'm going to use the steering wheel internals... very surprised to see the Saitek uses optics, like old mice!

Further I'm going to use more steering wheels for trimming, they are much more precise. Just remove the return-to-center spring and all is ready to go!

I will be using the MS FFB2 for a LONG time. Parts are cheap/cost next to nothing and I can repair them myself. That's a big plus!
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:25 AM
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A few months ago I need to replace my ailing 3 month old Logitech extreme . . . the stick in neutral would input left aileron and pull down (when using IL-2 config, the green / red squares) and the twist was pulling max twist right or left everytime the stick was touched. Got a replacement but it took nearly a month to get it . . . but didn't want to replace it every 3 mo's or so.

I could have waited a month and gotten the G940 . . . but the only review was Jay Hall's and it wasn't enough to grab me.


I went with full CH set up . . . I needed a HOTAS and the G940 was too new. I made it a personal policy to not get 1st gen stuff (since this was Logitech's 1st gen HOTAS).

A) my friend does UAV programming for the electronics, and all the guys there use the mil grade CH stuff and got a SPAWAR thumbs up.

B) many posts here and in the UBIZOO said CH was built for durability and reliability, plus you could get couger programming complicated or simply just plug and play (configure using windows control panel game controllers)

B2) I noticed Saitek, Logitech, Thrustmaster all had "horror" posts on quality, customer service run arounds etc . . . but CH didn't . . .

C) the guys in CH hanger were quick to get back to you . . .

D) A real life friend's psycho' ex powerlifting girlfriend grabbed and threw his 4 year old CH gear, ripping the USB's out (but they still worked on both PC and CH) and hurled it across the street in a badly aimed throw at my car while I was hot evac' him (away from her). I came back around he got it. They are scratched but worked fine despite the 5+ meter rise and fall.




So far with my CH HOTAS it rocks.

There are a few caveats with CH, it is light and offers no resistance, but I got used to it very fast.

CH I can use on full 100% sensitivity in il2 joy control, other joysticks wobble or do something nutty with 100%.

The CH pedals were designed for women in mind, I would appreciate one that allowed more foot spread . . . I can manage (spread my knees apart and set it at a right distance from my chair . . . ) but still hope the newers one have more feet spacing . . .


Hopefully Logitech did fix the durability issue ... and the G940 shows this . . .

Also Saitek has a HOTAS with a stick that doesn't move but feels the force of your hand when you push and detects that.

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Old 11-04-2009, 05:20 PM
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I love this thread.

Its about Logitech G940....

but all I see is CH fanbois butthurt or others crying cause their gear isn't on top anymore.

Is the G940 the coming of the Messiah ? No
Is the G940 the best stock H.O.T.A.S you can buy for the money? YES

So many people who don't own it or haven't tried it posting ........ like the noobs who have never flown a real plane, but cry about flight models or stick force pressures at 8g ....... you have to have been there to have a clue ...... same with the G940 .... if you haven't owned it - you don't know what your talking about.

I own it - its VERY good - not perfect - Best solution currently available for Force Feedback devotees. Built better than CH.

How do I know **** cause I have owned and used both.


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Old 11-04-2009, 05:48 PM
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Get back to me after 5 or 6 years of hard use and then we'll have a discussion.

I hope it works out, but I'm not going to bet my money on a Logitech new release.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:00 PM
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I think we must be conversing with a reseller of Logitech.

The time will tell advice isn't playing out with this one.

I'll bet I can find some more youtuber's having problems with this one.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:34 PM
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I think we must be conversing with a reseller of Logitech.

The time will tell advice isn't playing out with this one.

I'll bet I can find some more youtuber's having problems with this one.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:50 PM
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I think we must be conversing with a reseller of Logitech.

The time will tell advice isn't playing out with this one.

I'll bet I can find some more youtuber's having problems with this one.
I will let your logitech keyboard whines ..... stand on their own as the measure of your Hotas qualifications .... you lack all credibility in this thread because you have no facts to base it on.

I own it ..... you google youtube fsx videos about it ..... yeah your right - everyone should listen to you
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:43 PM
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I will let your logitech keyboard whines ..... stand on their own as the measure of your Hotas qualifications .... you lack all credibility in this thread because you have no facts to base it on.

I own it ..... you google youtube fsx videos about it ..... yeah your right - everyone should listen to you
You're losing your cool dude.

There are 6 billion people in the world, and I'm just one of them. No sense getting out of sorts because one person among all that mix doesn't agree with you.

Forums aren't about complete agreement, if that were the case what purpose would they serve. Your posting is not the first where someone has gone off on something this simple.
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