Realistic just "isnt"

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by SlappyDingle

Hey guys! I have a question about Realistic controls using a flightstick! Are you able to use the rudder properly with a stick as opposed to a gamepad? Cause I use the Gpad and on Realistic you can't even really touch the rudder for fear of stalling and slipping sideways.

Is this a sensitivity issue that the pads can't handle? Thoughts?

I usually don't use rudder. With the stabler airplanes you can use it to roll faster, but there's a chance of spinning. Anyways, you don't need it to compete in a dogfight in my opinion.

[SlappyDingle]

Interesting! I'd always used it on Arcade diff to aid banking and for fine aiming adjustments but I guess that's why it's Arcade diff! Pilots probably didn't use that in real life!

Thanks for the input Seraph!

[sloppy_clock]

Originally Posted by SlappyDingle

Interesting! I'd always used it on Arcade diff to aid banking and for fine aiming adjustments but I guess that's why it's Arcade diff! Pilots probably didn't use that in real life!

Thanks for the input Seraph!

Aha well actually the rudder has a VERY good use in dogfights, but only at one specific point. when your going head-on, dont fly directly towards them, then use the rudder to aim at them, most players ive noticed just fire straight, but this way your firing in an arc, so you can hit them, but they have a much lower chance of hitting you.

8/10 times its got me a kill or serious damage without getting a scratch.

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by sloppy_clock

Aha well actually the rudder has a VERY good use in dogfights, but only at one specific point. when your going head-on, dont fly directly towards them, then use the rudder to aim at them, most players ive noticed just fire straight, but this way your firing in an arc, so you can hit them, but they have a much lower chance of hitting you.

8/10 times its got me a kill or serious damage without getting a scratch.

I never thought of that... sounds practical .

Originally Posted by SlappyDingle

Interesting! I'd always used it on Arcade diff to aid banking and for fine aiming adjustments but I guess that's why it's Arcade diff! Pilots probably didn't use that in real life!

Thanks for the input Seraph!

Actually, I think they used it quite a lot in RL. You need to use it to fly a 'coordinated turn'. This is the most efficient way of turning, thus losing the least amount of energy. It's just impossible to use it in a sim as well, because of the lack of feel, and turn coordinator.

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

I usually don't use rudder. With the stabler airplanes you can use it to roll faster, but there's a chance of spinning. Anyways, you don't need it to compete in a dogfight in my opinion.

i love 'rudder kills'. especially when someone passes fast above you (coming from the side for example).
You pitch up 90 degrees, put the pepper on the guy, and then whe he overflies you, full rudder to keep peppering him in the pass. I do this pretty often, and most of the time the guy passes quite close, so the hits really do a lot of damage.
just love it... pitch up, shoot, follow with rudder, stall/spin due to the rudder, and then recover and in the mean time see the enemy crashing in the ground