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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:28 PM
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I agree that it has to
Well.. depends on the definition of beta

The two main areas being bugs and features

Some people define 'beta' as software released with a 'bug' in it.. Which is not only un-reasonable but flat out silly! Because by that definition most if not all software is beta, because most if not all software has bugs in the initial release. With that said not only is CoD excluded from being called beta for that reason, but all software is excluded from being called beta for that reason.

Some people define 'beta' as software not including all the features advertised on the box.. But in light of the fact that nothing was advertised that we did not receive also excludes CoD from being called beta.

Anyone that has had any experience with 1C previous flight sim, i.e. IL-2 knows that over the course of 10+ years 1C has provided several 'PAID' for 'upgrades' to IL-2 that include new features, maps, planes etc.. And during that same time 1C has provided 'FREE' updates that not only patched/fixed bugs but also added new features, maps, planes, etc.. Which is practically un-heard of in the PC gaming market!

Problem is a lot of people got 'use' to this 'GREAT' support (set the bar high) and receiving 'FREE' stuff such that now when 1C is struggling to tie up all the loose ends most of these spoiled people are now looking like the mob in an old Frankenstein movie and picking up torches and pitch forks and heading to 1C (virtually) to string Oleg up

So, in a weird sort of way, 1C caused this 'ungratefulness' problem by giving away what most flights sims (like RoF) charge $ for.

Sad but true

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Psychologically people often feel better when publicly blaming others, busting and bitching. Internet forums is a perfect place for this. People are not stupid not to realize that their bitching discourages the team, newcomers and even investors/publishers who read these forums, therefore harming further development of the product, but keep doing it because it makes them feel better. Perfectly understandable. I did it several times on sukhoi.ru forums too.
Agreed 100%!

We have all had our moments where we vent in frustration.. But identifying the problem should not be confused with an excuse for the problem.
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Last edited by JG52Uther; 12-05-2011 at 02:49 PM. Reason: No need to stir things up again.
 

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