No clickable cockpit! Are they for real.

[Birdflu]

Originally Posted by startrekmike

ROF is as deep as you want it to be, while I admit that many missions are pretty stale, that is more to do with mission designers and not so much the sim itself.

I have run plenty of interesting and fun co-ops with my friends and I never felt that it was limited in any way, nor do I feel that it is "air-quake", I mean, no more than CloD is oftentimes.

The fact is that we should not be bickering about something that is not even fully explained yet, we have no idea what this new sim will be and to act like it will just be ROF with a WWII coat of paint is both naive and foolish.

Sorry, but you and your friend above are acting like children and you need to stop and really think about what you are saying as opposed to just parroting others who also don't have a clear idea of what ROF is.

There is no need for this petty bickering, ROF is just as much a sim as CloD and the only real difference is that ROF does not have clickable cockpits, that is not a issue in ROF as there would be little to be gained by having it as a feature, you see, I have faith that this new product will be something cool and I am adult enough to give them the benefit of the doubt until I know more.

The funny thing about this whole thing is that CloD is very limited, both by it's bugs (the menu system is still a mess and barely functional) and it's lack of any sort of actual single player content out of the box that is worth anything, at least ROF has a not only four available campaigns but also a career mode that spans many years.

I mean, we can bicker and fight over who plays the best sim but in the end, you are not going to find a better WWI sim than ROF and you are not going to find a better WWII sim than CloD (at least in terms of technical aspirations) but while ROF is still alive and growing, CloD might as well have been called a stillbirth that only survives because there is simply nothing better out there.

Don't give me this air-quake crap, ROF is as deep as YOU choose to make it, you can play any sim (even CloD) as air-quake so that insult means nothing.

Lastly, I agree that Clod has better looking terrain but at what cost? I mean, the engine requires a pretty hefty GPU to even run at some level of detail due to it's horrible optimization and frankly, who cares if there are more fences in Clod than there are in ROF, who cares about ground objects that serve no purpose other than window dressing that drag your CPU and GPU needs into unreasonable territory.

ROF is not better than CloD but at the same token, CLoD is not better than ROF, it is apples and oranges at this point and until we know more, perhaps we should just try to wait and see what happens together as opposed to just complaining and trying to be internet tough guys, sound good?

+1

[il_corleone]

Originally Posted by startrekmike

ROF is as deep as you want it to be, while I admit that many missions are pretty stale, that is more to do with mission designers and not so much the sim itself.

I have run plenty of interesting and fun co-ops with my friends and I never felt that it was limited in any way, nor do I feel that it is "air-quake", I mean, no more than CloD is oftentimes.

The fact is that we should not be bickering about something that is not even fully explained yet, we have no idea what this new sim will be and to act like it will just be ROF with a WWII coat of paint is both naive and foolish.

Sorry, but you and your friend above are acting like children and you need to stop and really think about what you are saying as opposed to just parroting others who also don't have a clear idea of what ROF is.

There is no need for this petty bickering, ROF is just as much a sim as CloD and the only real difference is that ROF does not have clickable cockpits, that is not a issue in ROF as there would be little to be gained by having it as a feature, you see, I have faith that this new product will be something cool and I am adult enough to give them the benefit of the doubt until I know more.

The funny thing about this whole thing is that CloD is very limited, both by it's bugs (the menu system is still a mess and barely functional) and it's lack of any sort of actual single player content out of the box that is worth anything, at least ROF has a not only four available campaigns but also a career mode that spans many years.

I mean, we can bicker and fight over who plays the best sim but in the end, you are not going to find a better WWI sim than ROF and you are not going to find a better WWII sim than CloD (at least in terms of technical aspirations) but while ROF is still alive and growing, CloD might as well have been called a stillbirth that only survives because there is simply nothing better out there.

Don't give me this air-quake crap, ROF is as deep as YOU choose to make it, you can play any sim (even CloD) as air-quake so that insult means nothing.

Lastly, I agree that Clod has better looking terrain but at what cost? I mean, the engine requires a pretty hefty GPU to even run at some level of detail due to it's horrible optimization and frankly, who cares if there are more fences in Clod than there are in ROF, who cares about ground objects that serve no purpose other than window dressing that drag your CPU and GPU needs into unreasonable territory.

ROF is not better than CloD but at the same token, CLoD is not better than ROF, it is apples and oranges at this point and until we know more, perhaps we should just try to wait and see what happens together as opposed to just complaining and trying to be internet tough guys, sound good?

Rof is the best ww1 sim becose there is no more ww1 sim since 2000 i remember, and Clod has a potential engine , if fixed, could be better than any that we saw before. you are rigth the 2 are the best at its theatre, but the resource consumption its for one reason, more objects, detail and etc.

Il2 cliffs of dover its a bit foward in terms of technology, but its a back on terms of optimization, and the resource consumption its a bit tough but be reasonable.

+1 for your response.

The best 2 Sims out there from Prop aircraft.

[lokitexas]

Originally Posted by il_corleone

The best 2 Sims out there from Prop aircraft.

The only 2 modern prop sims out there at the moment. Not like anyone has a choice.

Thats why people will accept anything...its that or go back to flying Over Flanders Fields, and IL246, of which both have dynamic campaigns.

If there was a bigger market, and more compitition both wouldnt be so hollow.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by il_corleone

Clod has a potential engine , if fixed

That's a huge "if."

[Slipstream2012]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

The rampant "fanboism" is clear on both sides so yeah don't climb on the horses back as you could fall off!

Certainly I have seen a lot of rof fanboys attacking Cod and it turned out some hadnt even played the game so I wouldnt crow too loudly!

Yes its certainly clear that as soon as BOS was announced, all the fanboys come here to wind the Clod fanboys up, and accounts that have been dormant here for ages are coming back to life, just so their users and try and prove their point.

Just remember, don't get too smart. Until we see something from 777, anything can happen. Its early days.