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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 12-11-2012, 11:15 PM
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I need Ground Battles in ROF
ROF engine could do this ??

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Old 12-12-2012, 01:22 AM
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Ultimately, Clod couldn't do it either. So no point crying over it. Lets move on.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:10 AM
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I need Ground Battles in ROF
ROF engine could do this ??

no of course RoF will never do this, they wont even try

just compare the ground textures in RoF and the lack of detail, and the fact it cant handle high object count or high level scenery detail

and they wont even try, all they will now do is create a few ww2 era planes and insert it into the old bland RoF world and sell the new aircraft to you one at a time
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Ultimately, Clod couldn't do it either. So no point crying over it. Lets move on.
are you blind ?

the video is right there, it IS CoD

and the video is from march 2012, not something more recent

the only reason we dont have those added features to look forward to is the high volume of whining and moaning from the same people who are now suddenly happy to wait two more years to get a much inferior product that will NEVER come close to what CoD is currently
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:58 AM
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Default And so what about my money?

I paid money in good faith for CLoD, and never received the working product.

Will you return my money?
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:27 AM
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the only reason we dont have those added features to look forward to is the high volume of whining and moaning from the same people who are now suddenly happy to wait two more years to get a much inferior product that will NEVER come close to what CoD is currently
Give it up. NEVER have I seen such mindless devotion to a failed product. I bought it. I didn't create it. My failure was in hoping it would be what was promoted. It wasn't. Never will be. Don't blame the end user for the failure. That blame rest squarely on the shoulders of first Oleg and then Luthier's development teams. Time to move on.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:36 AM
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ultimately, clod couldn't do it either. So no point crying over it. Lets move on.
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are you blind ?
the video is right there, it IS CoD
and the video is from march 2012, not something more recent
the only reason we dont have those added features to look forward to is the high volume of whining and moaning from the same people who are now suddenly happy to wait two more years to get a much inferior product that will NEVER come close to what CoD is currently
I think what he means is that the features in that video never materialized to us.. Not fully. That is a nice video.

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I looked in there it was empty..and what I get upon trying to re register is this:


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Old 12-12-2012, 03:53 AM
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1C + 777 = **** YEAH!!

great bits of news, let's gather around the development once more..

nothing we haven't been used to right?
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:46 AM
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This is funny,

B6 posts that BoS will have a new biz model and lots of people overlooked that.



At first I was like, "Dude, CLoD just got nerfed hella!"

But then I realized, what made IL-2 was Oleg, Ilya, and the original team. But Oleg's gone . .. so that version of IL-2 cannot be replicated.

And given the CLod Team, they did a great job, and now they are working with 777 and may have more resources at their disposal and both teams have proven turn around capability.

Then there was the engine though I felt the ROF engine wasn't good enough. Goonies are good enough though. But back on track, there are cases where creative developers can take a old and busted engine and recode it so its the new hotness.




ROF team knows how to take a buggy project and turn it into something golden and awesome.

I'm sure 1C not putting Clod Engine on sale means they might be keeping it around to update the ROF engine or work on it on the side (speculation on my part) or it may have some use in the future.



I did say in another thread that the ROF engine is old and CLOD's is newer. And listed inherent issues.

What I did not say is that an old engine can be updated with lots of features if the coding team is creative enough.


I remember Max Payne 1 and Max Payne 2 were ballistic shooters. But some enterprising members of the modding community got the source code and added melee (kung fu) and matrix effects.

It turned out that the mods were better than the official matrix games that came out a few years after (when matrix was popular). And the melee combat was on par to hand to hand fighting games

Or the old quake 3 engine that was modded for use in the Jedi Knight 2 / III series. If anyone played q3, it had limitations that if one were to play JK 2, they would think it was a different, newer, modern engine.

I'm suspecting that 1C will take features of the CloD engine that are awesome and use those examples along with the 777 team and improve the old ROF engine

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Old 12-12-2012, 06:27 AM
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Why do you guys keep saying the ROF engine is old? It's not. I can remember when 1C started using IL2 to test new features for CLOD, and that was way before ROF was around.
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