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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:28 AM
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Yes, but ignoring (or being too busy to have time for them) is one thing. Treating them in this way is another. It is silly, and self-defeating and illustrates incompetence generally.
i think the explanation for the lack of readme and a decent manual, and the minimal communication, is rather more simple. its an issue of lack of time and forced priorities

the incomplete/unfinished beta release of CoD was forced by the "money men" who put their foot down after repeated delays and postponements of release dates (going back to 2006). because of the good reputation of the il2 series, sales were initially pretty good and they recouped enough money to allow the project of a series of sequential releases in the SoW series to continue,....but....with CoD having been such a fiasco because it quickly became evident to users and reviewers that there were major prblems, both in poor sales as well as in product reputation and reviews, Luthier was told after 6 months not to continue to pour resources into it and focus on the next project (we have been told this directly)

if luthier does continue to work on CoD, he gets chastised by the bosses and risks the survival of the series (one more fiasco and they are dead, WE are dead), and if he doesnt work on fixes for it he is exposed to the howls of discontent and tirade of abuse in the forum. since the gfx and game engine needs to be fixed for BoM to succeed, we have the benefit of getting the fruits of that labor (and we just did with the beta patch of august 2012 which was a MAJOR improvement for mid and low end pc's, basically it made the game playable), but "content fixes" (other then a few glaring ones that majorly affect functioning of the product, like CTD;s etc..) have not been a priority at all and most efforts were put into BoM.

however frustrating that is for us with the further delays, luthier mentioned in his last post that his team will put one last big effort into fixes for CoD (now that they have reached a milestone in the development of BoM which satisfies the bosses), which is pretty good news for us if we can get him to fix the main issues that affect gameplay and use of CoD (AI commands, LoD visibility, FM and DM issues,...).
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:30 AM
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How many IL-2 COD pilots are pissed at the developers, but hold back just to be nice...
no way in hell a lot of people would ever consider buying any expansions when the core is b.s. especially the red side... maybe the Russians think Western customers are gullible and stupid...

IL-2 went from the best to ....... well you know.. not good...

If DCS can do good why can't 1C ???

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S*** or get off the pot..
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:20 AM
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How many IL-2 COD pilots are pissed at the developers, but hold back just to be nice...
no way in hell a lot of people would ever consider buying any expansions when the core is b.s. especially the red side... maybe the Russians think Western customers are gullible and stupid...

IL-2 went from the best to ....... well you know.. not good...

If DCS can do good why can't 1C ???

we have a saying,,
S*** or get off the pot..
OK so you s****, will you now please be so good to get of the pot and never return?!

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:55 AM
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People are voting with their feet as a result. This forum is really quiet these days, last update apart from mine, one any thread, was 30 minutes prior. For a game with such a dedicated community that's pretty crap. Hardline moderation doesn't help either.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:42 AM
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People are voting with their feet as a result. This forum is really quiet these days, last update apart from mine, one any thread, was 30 minutes prior. For a game with such a dedicated community that's pretty crap. Hardline moderation doesn't help either.
To be fair I think the moderation on the forums has been very reasonable of late, I mean they let me back when they certainly didn't have to.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:18 AM
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It's consistent at least, but there's no room for banter, and that makes it like a dull classroom.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:38 AM
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Yeah even I have to admit the communication of late has been very sub par, and I consider myself a big fan of 1C and of CoD in general, admittedly I haven't played it for about 8 months due to being overseas, but even the state it was in before I left was very playable and enjoyable for me personally.

But this lack of communication from the devs especially after Luither said he'd be back to answer our questions after the last update is very disheartening, not even a reason has been given for the delay, I'm hoping that they're planning to announce something when they do get back to us.

It's actually the first time I've felt let down by them, which is kinda disappointing, fingers crossed it's for a good reason.
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But this lack of communication from the devs especially after Luither said he'd be back to answer our questions after the last update is very disheartening, not even a reason has been given for the delay, I'm hoping that they're planning to announce something when they do get back to us.
This is my fault. I should collect 5-10 old questions and send them to Ilya. But I made new threads and I collected over 200 questions. I don't know when he'll find time for this.
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This is my fault. I should collect 5-10 old questions and send them to Ilya. But I made new threads and I collected over 200 questions. I don't know when he'll find time for this.
BlackSix, you did your job well selecting 200 questions from all the posts. Ilya would certainly know which are the most urgent (net code, flight models, co-op formats, etc). He could also check the BugTracker to quickly see which items received the most votes to set the priority questions to answer.
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I see. Thanks BS.
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