Friday the 14th Development Update

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Originally Posted by furbs

Because Smigel, im still hoping that one day after 8 years of waiting they manage to finally get something right.

then you are TOO still hoping that the sequel will be better

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Originally Posted by J.Reb

"Are we happy with that? No. But we simply cannot continue to support and grow Cliffs of Dover while also trying to ensure our sequels are released on time and are sufficiently polished. I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation. Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red."

the thing i find wonderfull is the fact that Luthier considering that support/fix a game during one years because it was not finished at all is something incredible.... and stop working on it event it is not finish to be fix is normal....

i still hope that the sequel will be good and that a lot of fix and adding feature be present.... but how can i trust a man who said that kind of thing?

when i read him...finally i must admit that i will have to pay two time for a game with no garantee that it will be the product that i paid for.... sorry no! i can't.

but to be honest... i think that if the sequel is good and if it is a real BIG step forward i could forgive everything.

but if this sequel is another deception....il2 ils dead for ever... and i won't be the only one to forget this game if this happend.

i just hope that when the sequel will be release....the nighmare will be over.

[Aty2]

I speak as a member of an important squad network, = GRij =, and COD today is no competitor for IL2 Sturmovik

1 - No support independent from the world of mods

2 - No support for SEOW, this is an external problem for 1c, but it is what gives life to IL2 Sturmovik

3 - IL2 Sturmovik is a finished product with a very demanding fans, who do not accept a game unfinished and sequels before fix bugs

For my part I will not buy the sequel until proven 1c not worth spending more money on this game


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hablo como miembro de un escuadron importante en la red, =gRiJ= , y el COD a día de hoy no es competidor para el il2 sturmovik

1º- No tiene soporte independiente desde el mundo de los mods

2º- No tiene soporte para SEOW, esto es un problema externo para 1c, pero es lo que le da vida al il2 sturmovik

3º- Il2 sturmovik es un producto acabado y con unos seguidores muy exigente, que no aceptan un juego inacabado y secuelas antes de arreglar los fallos

por mi parte no voy a comprar la secuela hasta que 1c no demuestre que merece la pena gastar mas dinero en este juego

[J.Reb]

Actually, the only fair thing to do is to give CoD customers a free Sequel game, asuming they will accept it.

I do not consider Luthier fixing his bad product to be "wonderful". More like "expected".

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Wont happen reb. They need the sales money to fund development. This is why they working on sequel instead of 100% on clod fixes. Pretty obvious really.

[J.Reb]

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Yep.

I have noticed that companies that carry their poor financial standing to the marketplace for a cure usually fail.

[JG52Krupi]

These "people" who keep on saying I want the sequel free where an earth do you guys live to? Somewhere where capitalism has yet to appear, my guess is under a rock that is in one of the mosques in Timbuktu!

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by furbs

What amazes me is, why some people think BOM is going to be any better than COD.

jeez gosh, now lemme think, mmmmm what could it possibly be ? is life really that hard to understand wherever you'r at ?

first, the gfx engine is actually working now, which was the main cause of problems at release time
second, creating new objects and scenery for the new maps is a minor element that can be delegated to a few specific staff (other then the detailed new plane models which take more time and which uses a few other specially skilled people)
third, whatever else is currently a problem, AI, FM and DM's etc, they will have had a good year to focus on it without other distractions, which means it will be significantly better, which means in turn we will have crossed the threshold of the overall package being playable. fine tuning of individual plane performances can still continue later on (which is one of the things current CoD fighter aircraft badly need)

does that mean BoM will be perfect or the end all and be all of the new sim series, nope of course not, but it will work reasonably well out of the box and wont have the major problems CoD had. see, wasnt all that hard really

to now already waste time whining about future imperfections of other SoW projects just shows the stunted destructive and self defeating mindset some are locked into. now go and donate 10$ to your local favored charity, and forever open that box no more

[J.Reb]

Krupi -

Did you pay $50 for CoD then wait 2 yrs for it to be patched, only to now be told the final patch is coming whether the problems are fixed or not?

Grab a dictionary and look up "capitalism". You will find it involves the purchase of products that work. Products that don't work are either fixed by the manufacturer or become the subject of a law suit.

A "free sequel" is merely the substitute of a product that works for one that does not.

You got a problem with that?

Originally Posted by J.Reb

Krupi -

Did you pay $50 for CoD then wait 2 yrs for it to be patched, only to now be told the final patch is coming whether the problems are fixed or not?

Grab a dictionary and look up "capitalism". You will find it involves the purchase of products that work. Products that don't work are either fixed by the manufacturer or become the subject of a law suit.

A "free sequel" is merely the substitute of a product that works for one that does not.

You got a problem with that?

Ignore Krupi, he blows in the wind, you should of heard him slagging off Luthier on our Team speak, but on here he's a 1C boy.