Spit IIa is now so much more inferior to the 109

[FS~Phat]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Septic

Hi Chaps,

I have found the Spit IIa to be competitive with the 109. I have achieved a couple of kills and survived a couple more lengthy encounters. I have been able to make a sustained turn inside the 109 but only just. It surprised me how willingly the 109s have entered a turn fight but I'm no expert and it could have been the best tactic under the specific circumstances. I don't know whether these were experienced players.

I hesitate to mention this as I really enjoy the IIa but it seems a bit of a gift that I can fly with boost on all the time at 100% throttle. It seems to be about 8lbs boost. As long as revs are kept a little lower than maximum using prop-pitch and rads are open it will not overheat. I can achieve and maintain 280 mph low and sustain a turn at around 200mph for as long as my patience lasts.

Why have the realism fans not jumped up and down at this? Or am I completely wrong and I should be able to fly with the throttle through the gate all the time?

I really have no agenda to support here, it's merely subjective observation. I hope there is some balance possible, and there seems some currently between the 109E4 and SpitIIa.

Cheers,

Septic.

I have had exhaust manifold failure from sustained 3000RPM at 8lbs boost in the Spit IIA a few times. This was above 5000ft though so Im not sure what would happen down lower.

[pstyle]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Well the spits can sure keep up with my E4
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You're flying it wrong then.
Spit 2 max sea level is just on 280mph.

you can easily get that and some out of the 109E4.

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I have no probs fighting 109's in spit 2 as long as i follow simple rules.

1 dont fight one if they have advantage( thats why they call it advantage)
2 get them down low, where the boost counts
3 when in a turning flight fly on the very edge of stalling until on his 6.
4 if a 109 climbs away, let him , go somehere else if he has speed and you cant follow. They usually try to chase if you . Get them in a turning fight then they are at your mercy
5 if they try to run at low level, chase them. You csn catch them most of the time if energies are equal( depending on skill of pilot)

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by ReconNZ

Why play red at all?

I was just in a dog fight online in a IIa getting boomed and zoomed by a 109 - he had 30 - 40% more lift and speed on me on every sweep past and he just flew away from me everytime. Seriously, there is no way that is historically correct. I am an ok pilot, I know about energy etc, but the 109 is such a better plane in this sim now, there is no point trying to fly in a dogfight 1 on 1 if you're in a spit.

The 109's are the only planes that didnt get spanked in the new patch, what the hell is that all about???

Not to mention the 109's just fly away when the do run out of ammo, and the spits cant even get close to catching them.

Honestly It kills the game, why play red at all, if the 109s continue to be so much better, pilots will go somewhere else, leaving nothing but blue planes on their own.

sorry, you're far from ok pilot (at least with a Spit); if you do it right a Spit will give really nasty surprises to the 109s, i'll say you're mostly wrong, keep practicing or join the blues

[ATAG_Septic]

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

I have had exhaust manifold failure from sustained 3000RPM at 8lbs boost in the Spit IIA a few times. This was above 5000ft though so Im not sure what would happen down lower.

I do need to reduce the rpm at full boost (with pitch not throttle) or the engine is damaged within minutes but around 2700rpm can be sustained indefinitely with rads open.

I enjoy having to manage the aircraft in combat and would prefer if more management was needed on both 109 and Spit. The E4 is, for me, too easy in terms of engine and flight management.

Cheers,

Septic.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Septic

I do need to reduce the rpm at full boost (with pitch not throttle) or the engine is damaged within minutes but around 2700rpm can be sustained indefinitely with rads open.

I enjoy having to manage the aircraft in combat and would prefer if more management was needed on both 109 and Spit. The E4 is, for me, too easy in terms of engine and flight management.

Cheers,

Septic.

Agreed, you should get a benefit from using the manual prop pitch.

[Ze-Jamz]

Your see hardly any advantage using boost and then cause loads of drag with rads open..

To the OP... get more lessons then

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Agreed, you should get a benefit from using the manual prop pitch.

+1

Sad case of people getting caught with their pants down and then bringing up the whole my plane is nerved threads

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Sad case of people getting caught with their pants down and then bringing up the whole my plane is nerved threads

LOL Jamz you've gone and done it, I am glad I got my asbestos suit out ready this threads about to heat up!!!

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

LOL Jamz you've gone and done it, I am glad I got my asbestos suit out ready this threads about to heat up!!!

Lol..Im surprised we haven't heard it again before now