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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-07-2012, 02:37 PM
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Depends only how much further from release it was 5-6 months ago. Thus, can not be a lie. We can not know in which nightmare state the previous developer who was fired left the engine.
Well said.

I have always found that to pick up a half done job and complete it is far more difficult and time consuming that to start it from the beginning.

It is testament to their character that they aren't blaming other people for the state of the sim and that they are just getting on with it.

At least we know they aren't going anywhere and that they have future projects so what ever the situation today it will be better tomorrow....or in two weeks at least
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:42 PM
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This.

Putting in the work is voluntary. But for those that don't want to do it, they should at least let the rest of us do. They stand to gain from this just as much as we do. Otherwise, if they keep sabotaging everything they'll have nobody else to blame for their unfixed sim.

Do you want to help? Apply the patch, fly and send in your data and bug observations.

You don't want to help? Sit back, have a beer and let the others do the job, but keep quiet and don't distract the people who are doing you a favor by being unpaid volunteers to fix the game you bought.

Pretty simple really
The perfect example:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...65&postcount=1
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:48 PM
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Also, always good to put things in perspective, please check this thread

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...47&postcount=1

Specially between the end of July 2011 and the beginning of September 2011, when we got a huge step forward with the release of 1.03.15527 (shadowed afterwards by the infamous online CTD bug).

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Old 05-07-2012, 02:53 PM
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Just played on the ATAG server.... no ctd (only played for a couple of hours mind) .... some minor lag during that time.

Just the new graphic errors need sorting!!!

O... and i still need to improve on my flying skills ....

Ross
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:56 PM
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Beta patches can be a disaster. Therefore most developers don't like to release beta, except to a select group of users.

It is strange how people will blame all issues they encounter after they receive a beta software.

Using the term beta infers problems and that is the sum of it.

Steam doesn't download betas, is my understanding. That is why we had an archived file to download.

In other words, whines and complaints about beta is worthless effort. I suggest making constructive comments to help the developer.

I do have some positive results from this patch, but I'm not going to make an issue out of it. Someone will certainly have a difference of opinion. LOL
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Well, I can now play with good fps with textures on original and shadows on, so I see this as a positive. I can happily cope with the pitfalls of loading an Alpha/beta patch. They never said it was definitive. An Alpha/beta is exactly what it says on the tin.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:08 PM
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Just played on the ATAG server.... no ctd (only played for a couple of hours mind) .... some minor lag during that time.

Just the new graphic errors need sorting!!!

O... and i still need to improve on my flying skills ....

Ross

Are you talking the hard lag spikes from time to time, someone from that server suggested it was the downloading of custom skins, I have not yet tried to disable that option under network to see if that goes away. But I had the same experience... no CTDs.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:15 PM
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I personally think that after a full year of higher expectatives, now I do not care any more about tomorrow,
next two weeks, nor even next month…
I care about getting things right by the CloD 1C team. I care about the CloD 1C team taking back the control
of the situation.
Obviously they are not capable,and trust me,it hurts me maybe even more than them..
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:20 PM
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Are you talking the hard lag spikes from time to time, someone from that server suggested it was the downloading of custom skins, I have not yet tried to disable that option under network to see if that goes away. But I had the same experience... no CTDs.
The title says it all... lol

I havnt really been with clod lately... just waiting (like everyone else) for the game to ...run smooth? work? provide neutral performance for all?!
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:46 PM
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This.

Putting in the work is voluntary. But for those that don't want to do it, they should at least let the rest of us do. They stand to gain from this just as much as we do. Otherwise, if they keep sabotaging everything they'll have nobody else to blame for their unfixed sim.

Do you want to help? Apply the patch, fly and send in your data and bug observations.

You don't want to help? Sit back, have a beer and let the others do the job, but keep quiet and don't distract the people who are doing you a favor by being unpaid volunteers to fix the game you bought.

Pretty simple really
This might sound right but I really do not think is the way...

I will try to explain myself:

What was the purpose of releasing the patch public now (last Saturday)?
Maybe gathering help and information from the community... as good as this might sound, what is the difference
between today and let´s say last Friday?
What prevented the 1C CloD team to get support from the community as we were last Friday?

So willing to help as much as possible and considering the community as the highest asset, I still need the
1C CloD team to take care of their beloved project, to manage the collaboration, to take control of all this with
a purpose. This purpose will certainly will not satisfy everybody but it has to be the driving force.

Now, some of us have mutated from customers to supporters, from supporters to testers and from testers to…
There is a limit of how much we can do for them. The responsibility is only theirs, even with all our support and
collaboration.

Salutes.
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