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[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

I still hve not seen any strong EVIDENCE for the much publicized 100oct and 12lb.

Frankly it looks like more of a Gamer Fantasy.

If you had made even the most cursory effort to do so, maybe you would have. Even just in the combat reports from Mike Williams' site (www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org) you can see evidence for use of the +12lb boost in squadrons operating from the following locations:

RAF North Weald (11 Group) in February
RAF Drem (13 Group) in February
RAF Rochford (11 Group) in March
RAF Digby (12 Group) in March
RAF Hawkinge (11 Group) in May
RAF Hornchurch (11 Group) in May
RAF Tangmere (11 Group) in May
RAF Duxford (12 Group) in May
RAF Gravesend (11 Group) in June
RAF Catterick (12 Group) in June
RAF Biggin Hill (11 Group) in July
RAF Kenley (11 Group) in August
RAF Northolt (11 Group) in August
RAF Westhampnett (11 Group) in August
RAF Middle Wallop (10 Group) in August
RAF Leconfield (12 Group) in August
RAF Croydon (11 Group) in September
RAF Warmwell (10 Group) in September

If you have reservations about Mike Williams' site, you can confirm this at www.oldrafrecords.com, where there are even more. It only took me around 30 minutes to compile that list a few months ago, and I didn't even bother to go through that many on the Old RAF Records site. It's a bit silly how people just denounce these things without making even a token effort to look.

[Osprey]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Don't annoying the Frenchy Osprey

Well.....I've been watching this for 45 minutes; you'd think the stupid dog would catch on.......

[xnomad]

Well on a completely different note I've discovered why my Hurri keeps cutting out after a while (I've been flying the Hurri after recommendations on this thread).

It turns out I've had the bloody thing running off the reserve tank.
That's cost me my life twice now on ATAG, I couldn't figure out why the engine would cut out when I had so much fuel still. Hahaha

[xnomad]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Aaaaaaarrrrrgghhh

You've just kill me hundreds of time.

Tht's why I hate so much the stupid FM IL2 had on some plane (not talking abt old CFS). Painful to see that way how disastrous a complaisant FM can have on the sim community (and RL pilot ?).

Pls don't take me wrong there is nothing personal. You hve all the right to be wrong (as I do take mine from time to time )

No, the height you loss in a dive is not to be exceeded after with a zoom climb. You can't climb by alternating dive and zoom. Tht's Il2 world only.

If you want to fast climb, first use your kin E by putting your nose over the horizon using your cte climb incidence as a reference. Your plane will coast rise using the energy due to the speed and then climb at the best ratio possible once your vector speed has fall down to best climb speed.

Zooming (like going full vertical) does not accelerate your time to alt. It simply
reduce the time for distance separation with an opponent that hve less E. But you hve to know that the maximum alt you will gain with a given state of E is in fact much less than using the above technique.

~S

Yep I agree, I have no idea why I wrote that or what I was thinking.

[Blakduk]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Robo, I'm not sure how familiar you are with Blackadder II, if you aren't then I recommend a download. This is the 12lbs argument in a nutshell.....

@klem, for 2600 & 6.25lbs, you can go forever like that without overheat with an open rad for as long as you like from my experience.

Osprey- You've outdone me sunshine!
I quoted the dialogue in that scene in another thread about this same topic- you've managed to imbed a link to the actual footage. I tip my hat

[bw_wolverine]

I was on ATAG around 1:30am est on tonight (this morning) and I could have SWORN I saw a clip wing spitfire take off from Hawkinge and fly about. Seriously! Clipped wings! What the hell?

I have previously not taken much stock in all the clammoring about cheats and hacks etc. This is the first time I've actually seriously considered the possibility that people are really doing this stuff rather than people just thinking that they are.

Has anyone else seen this!?

[klem]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

I was on ATAG around 1:30am est on tonight (this morning) and I could have SWORN I saw a clip wing spitfire take off from Hawkinge and fly about. Seriously! Clipped wings! What the hell?

I have previously not taken much stock in all the clammoring about cheats and hacks etc. This is the first time I've actually seriously considered the possibility that people are really doing this stuff rather than people just thinking that they are.

Has anyone else seen this!?

No, but I did see a pink elephant one night (what are you drinking?!!)

I thought there was an anti-cheat thingy running. No?

[xnomad]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

I was on ATAG around 1:30am est on tonight (this morning) and I could have SWORN I saw a clip wing spitfire take off from Hawkinge and fly about. Seriously! Clipped wings! What the hell?

I have previously not taken much stock in all the clammoring about cheats and hacks etc. This is the first time I've actually seriously considered the possibility that people are really doing this stuff rather than people just thinking that they are.

Has anyone else seen this!?

I've noticed that red now spawn in hangars now. Maybe the guy clipped his wings getting out of the hangar? I've knocked the tips off my own spit a couple of times and it looks like a clipped wing.

[jimbop]

Also remember that there are graphics anomalies in the game. You often see 109s flying around with wheels down (that are actually up) - maybe this extends to clipped wings? Don't know...