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[SEE]

I say 21k because we engaged at high altitude twice and the fights were good - I imagine its more difficult to go vertical (to the extent where the BF can climb vertically, seemingly for ever and ever) at that altitude. The other encounter was at around 18k but he can still (and does use) the vertical climb superiority of the BF to get a solution - in my case a forced bailout as he swiped my controls in a single short burst.

Last night I emptied all my rounds into his E1 and he still killed me! - I was gutted as I stared into my Black screen - a few seconds later his E1 hit the deck and it was 1 pilot kill each - I felt much better! Had a brief exchange of chat afterwards and he is a very nice guy as well as an outstanding pilot!

I learn more from him and the good BF pilots so don't mind getting swiped - it's how you learn.

[xnomad]

I'm not being provocative about the 110. I fly red and blue so I don't have an agenda. I am aware of the affect mass has on allowing an object to hold it's speed. This is also why you can gain altitude faster by diving and zoom climbing than just by conventional climbing However if the 110 was this effective in real life it would not have needed a 109 escort which it famously required during bob. Sent from my phone so forgive any mistaskes pls.

[MoGas]

Originally Posted by jimbop

Lol but he's dangerous at any altitude. ATAG should have another column: "# times shot down by MrX", I would probably be leading!

He often uses an accomplice rabbit to line you up - very effective tactic.

Dont forget, he is to 90% not alone, you can say, 5-8 guys on comms on repka, flying as a team.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by xnomad

I am aware of the affect mass has on allowing an object to hold it's speed. This is also why you can gain altitude faster by diving and zoom climbing than just by conventional climbing

Aaaaaaarrrrrgghhh

You've just kill me hundreds of time.

Tht's why I hate so much the stupid FM IL2 had on some plane (not talking abt old CFS). Painful to see that way how disastrous a complaisant FM can have on the sim community (and RL pilot ?).

Pls don't take me wrong there is nothing personal. You hve all the right to be wrong (as I do take mine from time to time )

No, the height you loss in a dive is not to be exceeded after with a zoom climb. You can't climb by alternating dive and zoom. Tht's Il2 world only.

If you want to fast climb, first use your kin E by putting your nose over the horizon using your cte climb incidence as a reference. Your plane will coast rise using the energy due to the speed and then climb at the best ratio possible once your vector speed has fall down to best climb speed.

Zooming (like going full vertical) does not accelerate your time to alt. It simply
reduce the time for distance separation with an opponent that hve less E. But you hve to know that the maximum alt you will gain with a given state of E is in fact much less than using the above technique.

~S

[MK.Mr.X]

Originally Posted by MoGas

Dont forget, he is to 90% not alone, you can say, 5-8 guys on comms on repka, flying as a team.

I fly not one, when my evening. On the server at this time, no more than 20 people.
But I still fly in the morning, when all the Russian sleeping, I am one. 40-50 pilots on the server

Originally Posted by SEE

Roll on the update........meanwhile I will hapilly stay with the Spit1a - preferably at 16K+ (except whem Mk.MrX is about then its 21K..........)

In that fight, I flew to 4000m. I saw you at 5500m
I went to the side. climbed, went to you.
Your mistake was that you saw me started to climb. why? was the same height
It was too late, I was close. I picked up speed.
Remember! At such an altitude is easier to collect energy than the height.
Energy is converted into height after convergence.
You're a good pilot, fighting with you is always interesting.

[SEE]

Originally Posted by MK.Mr.X

In that fight, I flew to 4000m. I saw you at 5500m
I went to the side. climbed, went to you.
Your mistake was that you saw me started to climb. why? was the same height

On my encounters with MrX he has been on his own.

It was a mistake - lesson learn't - You were quite a distance away and slightly lower alt when we saw each other - I didn't know it was you at the time!

I enjoy meeting you, your advice and observations are much appreciated too - look forward to more encounters (at altitide MrX ) S:

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Zooming (like going full vertical) does not accelerate your time to alt. It simply
reduce the time for distance separation with an opponent that hve less E. But you hve to know that the maximum alt you will gain with a given state of E is in fact much less than using the above technique.

~S

I think theoretically it is better to zoom in case your speed exceeds your best climb speed because drag is proportional to speed square IIRC. Thus every second an airplane has speed higher than best climb speed it is wasting E due to extra drag. If it zooms it reduces time spent at speed higher than best climb speed and converts kinetic E to potential E. As soon as speed is dropped to best climb speed zoom can be stopped and changed to sustained climb at best climb speed. Just my understanding, may be be not 100% correct.

PS. And btw acceleration of a falling object does not depend on its weight, rather on weight to drag ratio IIRC. In vacuum 2 objects of different weight would fall with the same speed.

[MoGas]

Originally Posted by MK.Mr.X

I fly not one, when my evening. On the server at this time, no more than 20 people.
But I still fly in the morning, when all the Russian sleeping, I am one. 40-50 pilots on the server

Then I should fly on other times

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Hurri does keep up with a 109, easily with the current FM's slightly slower perhaps but not a lot in it.

I've read on here about 109's doing @ 450kmph straight and level. I've even managed well over 400kmph myself in one of my 2 flights as a novice.
450kmph = 280mph. You cannot do that in a Hurricane straight and level, best I ever get is about 250ish. That fits in with 109's pulling away easily, which they can and do. I always have to catch them napping.

Are you sure you aren't confusing '109' with '110' ? That does about 250mph. I'm getting good climb now though, yet to try a chase of a 109 in the climb though.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by SEE

I don't see the Spit2/E4 making a return on this server untill the next update is released. Too many bad vibes!

So some of the LW have bullied the Spit IIa off the server. Well done lads, nice work.