radiators have no influence on speed

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by IvanK

Err I ride jetstreams for a living they don't affect TAS just the Groundspeed.

Whether I am in the jetstream or not the Mach number and or IAS and the TAS are the same, the Groundspeed changes though.

Having known and flown (only in games unfortunately)Ivan for a few years, I would just say, take his advise on this, he is a real commercial and ex military pilot, also if you give it some thought, it is pretty obvious that what Ivan is saying is true, it affects ground speed but not airspeed, in other words your not actually travelling as far, but you are still going at the same speed.

[MadBlaster]

Okay, I think I understand now what you are saying. I am not a pilot btw.

But isn't ground speed and IAS and TAS at sea level pretty close to being the same for this purpose?

Edit:except for the wind vector component I guess??

Edit2: okay i think I get it after wiki. moving air mass...whatever blah, blah. no need to worry about wind in test then.

[SYN_Repent]

ace of aces, im not getting into that debate with you again, look at the bug reports, all the errors and bugs are there, from GFX, sound, control, engine, anything you can imagine, the bugs are there, perhaps if you take off your rose tinted glasses for a second you would be able to see them, give em a read before you reply here telling me my prom date didnt show........btw, with your fixation on prom dates, im a starting to presume something horrible happened in the past to you, was she fat and the only girl left without a date so went with the school nerd, did she drink too much spiked punch and throw up all over your handed down tux, did that event put you off girls for life?

just one, cba to look further, its too easy to prove you wrong all the time, no sport anymore http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25857

[zhu7916zhaoso]

I've noticed this as well. Seems like I can fly around all day on full throttle with rads full open and not lose any performance to drag. Probably a bug?? It's like they fix one damn thing and something else goes haywire! But being as the game is as complex as it is I guess it's just the nature of the beast...
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[Tacoma74]

Originally Posted by zhu7916zhaoso

I've noticed this as well. Seems like I can fly around all day on full throttle with rads full open and not lose any performance to drag. Probably a bug?? It's like they fix one damn thing and something else goes haywire! But being as the game is as complex as it is I guess it's just the nature of the beast...

What the hell..? Thats exactly what I said in post #4 lol

[Matt255]

I think you will have great difficulty testing this without logging data.

All you need to do is trim the plane to fly straight with radiator fully open. then close the radiator and trim again if necessary (doesn't seem to be necessary on the Spit btw?).

As long as you do that, you can easily check if the setting of the radiator flaps has any influence on airspeed. Takes 5 minutes for each plane. You can use that wonder-woman view to make it easier.

[FFCW_Urizen]

At least for the E-3, radiator do produce drag, easily noticeable on the instant need to trim the plane.

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by Matt255

All you need to do is trim the plane to fly straight with radiator fully open. then close the radiator and trim again if necessary (doesn't seem to be necessary on the Spit btw?).

As long as you do that, you can easily check if the setting of the radiator flaps has any influence on airspeed. Takes 5 minutes for each plane. You can use that wonder-woman view to make it easier.

Yes, but if you don't log the data and post it, no one is going to know if you did it right or not. The plane needs to be perfectly level and no acceleration/deceleration going on when you begin the test. The slightest pitch up or down can make the plane accelerate/decelerate and screw up your reading. It would be nice if they had a test map and level stabilizer functionality available for testing the flight models. Anyway, I won't be doing this. I don't play CLoD. Maybe someday or maybe not if it is already selling for 12 bucks and this whole board becomes moot.

[Matt255]

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen

At least for the E-3, radiator do produce drag, easily noticeable on the instant need to trim the plane.

You also need to trim the E-4. It still doesn't slow the plane down.

But i'll probably check it with the E-3 aswell today.

The slightest pitch up or down can make the plane accelerate/decelerate and screw up your reading.

This wonder-woman view has everything necessary for a straight and level flight. Climbrate indicator, etc. is all there.

Yes, but if you don't log the data and post it, no one is going to know if you did it right or not.

I'm pretty sure the devs have access to logs like that, onscreen TAS, perhaps also an auto-level etc, to test that.

I don't even see the need for us non-developers to log something like that. After all, the devs shouldn't believe any results posted in this forum, before checking it themselves imho.

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by Matt255

You also need to trim the E-4. It still doesn't slow the plane down.

But i'll probably check it with the E-3 aswell today.


This wonder-woman view has everything necessary for a straight and level flight. Climbrate indicator, etc. is all there.


I'm pretty sure the devs have access to logs like that, onscreen TAS, perhaps also an auto-level etc, to test that.

I don't even see the need for us non-developers to log something like that. After all, the devs shouldn't believe any results posted in this forum, before checking it themselves imho.

oKay. do it your way, i don't really give a rats. the game is 12 bucks and likely dead now.