COOPS possible with yesterday's patch?

[EAF331 Starfire]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

The only problem is that it's hard to click on aircraft in the pre-flight map but that's not a fundamental design flaw, it's just an interface issue.

I hope i'm making myself clear, what i'm trying to say is that the only thing that's changed is the labels, we can still fly a pure DF scenario or a pure Coop scenario if we have a suitable mission made in the FMB.

So how do I recreate my fundemental 2 vs 1 Bracket mission from IL-2?

It is a 2 vs 1 with airstart. Friends and foes can se the other.
Pilots select the a/c before the mission start in order not to waste time.

The idear is that the mission can be rerun as many times as possible in order to create muscle memmory.
I have a sh*tload of very short training missions that was designed to save time and I don't know how to recreate them.

If I undestand you correctly, then there are no way this can be done!?

If my assumption is true that we can't select aircraft before mission start, I do find it a very fundemental flaw.

If I undestand you correctly, all that COOP-mode does is to prevent new aircrafts from spawning.
Something that can still be done in DF-mode.

I am confused

[Ataros]

The interface issue was fixed in recent beta patch hopefully. Try asking Bobb4 how they run a coop mini campaign http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26483

If you need some quick 2 vs. 1 training I think it will be quicker to spawn aircraft simultaneously in 3 spawnplaces with airstart than to wait till a coop mission reloads every time. Just type "GO" in chat before spawn to spawn simultaneously. You can place several dozen spawnpoints on a map and chose different ones depending on the kind of training mission you want to fly.

[EAF331 Starfire]

Thanks for the suggestion.
That is owfully complicated for what I want.
The idear with those training missions is that the trainees are placed directly in the situation. No waiting. No getting into the right formation. No confusion on which way to fly. No turning the wrong way.
Instant action without delay to train a single move or skill.

But thanks for trying to help me.

I hope the issues in the beta gets solved soon.

[Pato Salvaje]

I am familiarizing me with the new server operation, and I did some cooperative missions in the FMB with te new maps of betapatch. I hosted the mission in my PC and everything worked fine. But I wonder if someone has managed to fly BOB map hosting one of the pilots, or as I fear BOB map requires a dedicated server?

[Pato Salvaje]

Well... what I mean is that I can host my squadron on a mission from te "small" online maps with my rig without any problem, but when I try to host a mission from BOB map then I cant select it from server coop directory. It´s as it is´nt there, but I´m sure... I created it... and the files are there... I thought that was for some BOB map limitation server... as the BOB map only can be select from a dedi server...

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Pato Salvaje

Well... what I mean is that I can host my squadron on a mission from te "small" online maps with my rig without any problem, but when I try to host a mission from BOB map then I cant select it from server coop directory. It´s as it is´nt there, but I´m sure... I created it... and the files are there... I thought that was for some BOB map limitation server... as the BOB map only can be select from a dedi server...

Could other players connect to your small map and play coop online? If yes, could you please upload your mission here?

There are no map-size restrictions. If you can not see a mission it must be in a different directory or does not have a .mis extension. Maybe you placed it into the Steam folder instead of the Documents folder.

ps. BTW. Someone mentioned before that co-op does not work when he tries to take an offline mission and make a coop from it. I think the reason is that the "Player" checkbox remains checked in a property window of one aircraft which makes the mission an offline one only by definition. Side switching should be also enabled in difficulty settings to make side flags clickable in the menu.

[Nitrous]

With the beta patch 15527, when I host a game with preset planes in and no spawn areas, why can't anybody else who joins my game either, see or join into the existing planes but yet I can. This issue is only with the Channel map. The other maps work fine. Is this issue not fixed yet?

BTW I like the new style of joining coop style missions, and like the idea that the plane is ai until you jump in it.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Nitrous

With the beta patch 15527, when I host a game with preset planes in and no spawn areas, why can't anybody else who joins my game either, see or join into the existing planes but yet I can. This issue is only with the Channel map.

If it works with other missions means something is wrong with Channel mission.

Try to run the Channel mission OFFline. Can you spawn into a plane offline in it? If yes, you need to remove the "Player" checkbox in that plane properties. Mak sure difficulty settings are the same when you run both missions.

Could you please upload both missions here for others to try? Especially the one that works. Thank you.

[Pato Salvaje]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

I'd check the directory again. You could try placing the map in the dogfight directory,...

OK... I´ll check it...and will try the doghfight directory...

Originally Posted by Ataros

There are no map-size restrictions. If you can not see a mission it must be in a different directory or does not have a .mis extension. Maybe you placed it into the Steam folder instead of the Documents folder.

I´ll check the extension... and verify the Steam folder...

Originally Posted by Ataros

Someone mentioned before that co-op does not work when he tries to take an offline mission and make a coop from it. I think the reason is that the "Player" checkbox remains checked in a property window of one aircraft which makes the mission an offline one only by definition. Side switching should be also enabled in difficulty settings to make side flags clickable in the menu.

Well... I made my missions in FMB without any premade missions, from scratch.... althought I´ll verify if any aircraft has checked as player.

Thank you for your answers.

Originally Posted by Ataros

Could other players connect to your small map and play coop online? If yes, could you please upload your mission here?

Yes, my mission is a simple Spawn point and some enemy Bombers with escort. My Squadron is still flying 1946 and is slowly migrating to Cliffs. These missions are for encourage them and begin to train together.
I can´t upload the mission now, but next post I´ll try it.

[Nitrous]

Originally Posted by Ataros

If it works with other missions means something is wrong with Channel mission.

Try to run the Channel mission OFFline. Can you spawn into a plane offline in it? If yes, you need to remove the "Player" checkbox in that plane properties. Mak sure difficulty settings are the same when you run both missions.

Could you please upload both missions here for others to try? Especially the one that works. Thank you.

I'm not trying to be funny but I'm frustrated that you have not read my post properly. There are no problems when your the host its when my friends join my missions.
I've tried getting other people to host the missions just to see what they see(nothing to fly).
It's like the player tick box can't be un ticked.
BTW I am not a newb to mission building.
Please try it yourself. Just create 4 planes on each side then host the mission.
Then see if anyone who joins sees the planes to get into.
Try it with each map. Only channel map don't work from day one.

I'm not great at explaining stuff, so apologies if I've offended anyone.
Im just frustrated that I can't do what I want to do, and the issue has not been noticed or fixed.