So Much more Than A Flight Sim?

[Jotaele]

Yea, its sad that having a so good ground detail, we have not a better way to enjoy it.Or use in missions.
I mean that giving us the posibility of leve the plane and walk and get new veicles could made the game experience much wide.
In example ,we could made especiall mission :
-like flying in a tiger moth to another base and chage to and spitfire in the same mission,
-or star in a car in fornt of a pub in a car and you need to run at the airfield in the middle of a german bombrun, and get sour hurricane to scramble.That would increase the sense of being part in a huge world.
A simplified first person view sistem to walk dont should be very hard to do.
In the last serios DCS a10,after you ejected and land, you can walk with your joystick, and a guy made a mod in with you can use any veicle.Only for fun.
I hope we have some of these features in the future.
I would be happy currently with being able to use antialiasing or a good FFB support.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Well... I have FSX with UK 'real scenery' and the latest 'Ground Environment Europe'. I also have Rof ICE edition which runs easy maxed out on my pc.
None of these are as good IMO.

Am I missing something juicier than CoD in this respect?

is that really true Dutch?

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by SsSsSsSsSnake

is that really true Dutch?

Certainly is. Real scenery is great at 5000ft or above, but no ground detail at all such as trees, grass etc.

Ground Environment Europe is only a bit nicer than stock scenery, but only really from the air, and nowhere near CoD detail level on the ground.

RoF is a great game but also doesn't have the detail of CoD.

When I get home I'll post some comparative screenshots if you like.

Edit: Second thoughts, just check out the new screenshot threads!

[C_G]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Oleg and his team repeatedly mentioned that IL2:CoD was designed with a combined battlefield in mind. Go the config Menu in CoD and you will notice there are sections for other vehicles in regards to key mapping.

So expect to drive a Matilda or a Panzer III eventually =)

That's correct, in the Luthier/Oleg SimHQ interview he mentionned that the game engine has been designed with this possibility in mind:

"Q. There's been speculation that the new engine might be used as a basis for other sim genres such as tanks, surface ships, and submarines. Is that still a possibility you envision could happen? Could a player driving a T-34 co-op with players flying an IL-2 in a combined armament battle?

A. Right now, the game engine potentially allows the player to control any object regardless of type. You could control a cloud or a building or a tree, i.e. literally anything. Of course, releasing this to the world requires some extra work, of actually making it interesting and realistic. But purely from the point of view of possibilities, the game engine has always been designed with a combined battlefield in mind."

Personally, I can't wait for the cloud simulation. I look forward to playing IL2:CloDo as a cumulo nimbus and pummeling Axis forces with hailstorms, lightning, and gale force winds

[bw_wolverine]

I have to agree with the OP. I've never seen this level of graphic beauty on the deck in a flight sim, and like him I've played quite a few.

I'm commenting based on all the vids and screens I've seen. I don't get the game until the 19th (GRR).

One thing that has impressed me a lot is the mapping of the buildings to the ground textures correctly. Even in FSX you see buildings just slapped on down on top of the textures that cross roads or tracks and are basically not matched up, and that completely ruins the effect.

Looking at London and other towns in the CoD shots, it seems very clear that the roads are actual roads that go between buildings. The buildings very clearly follow the logic of the ground texture.

Also, the lighting and shadows of the ground/trees/buildings really makes it look beautiful. Artistry and subtle effects CAN make up for other deficiencies in places and I think 1C has done admirably.

A very very basic ground battle system could be made to be a lot of fun for people. Even if it was mostly arcade like until machines could handle more sim aspects for it, you could still give it strategy. For it to be fun, there has to be enough for the player to do. It would get boring fast to drive around and shoot if that's all you could do. The terrain/battlefield will never be dynamic enough to make that good enough. Maybe moving battlegroups around with a rudimentary waypoint assigning system would work. If you had command over 10 different battlegroups (infantry, mechanized, etc.) and manoevered them kind of like the Total War games, that could be fun - especially if you are coordinating with the air power.

[JMB]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I half expected some old bloke to come strolling over the rise, walking his dog back from an evening pint in the local inn.

That's the trouble with dogs, give 'em an inch and they go out and get pissed.

Get a goldfish, a lot less hassle and if the apocalypse happens in 2012, well, at least you've got your dinner sorted.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by JMB

That's the trouble with dogs, give 'em an inch and they go out and get pissed.

Get a goldfish, a lot less hassle and if the apocalypse happens in 2012, well, at least you've got your dinner sorted.

Or live in Korea, best of both worlds.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Certainly is. Real scenery is great at 5000ft or above, but no ground detail at all such as trees, grass etc.

Ground Environment Europe is only a bit nicer than stock scenery, but only really from the air, and nowhere near CoD detail level on the ground.

RoF is a great game but also doesn't have the detail of CoD.

When I get home I'll post some comparative screenshots if you like.

Edit: Second thoughts, just check out the new screenshot threads!

Dutch would you say the detail/effects are better than WOP and thanks for the FSX comparison,when i played that i was almost gonna buy those addons but deleted the game cus i didnt have time to play it

[JMB]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Or live in Korea, best of both worlds.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Well... I have FSX with UK 'real scenery' and the latest 'Ground Environment Europe'. I also have Rof ICE edition which runs easy maxed out on my pc.
None of these are as good IMO.

Am I missing something juicier than CoD in this respect?

I don't think you're missing anything, but several threads here suggest you are. There are plenty of posts explaining that the graphics in this game are not up to standard for a 2011 flight sim - I think they're talking nonsense, but it's surprising how many people are complaining.

Complaining that the game wasn't quite ready when it was released is one thing, but if the graphics and physics are the best it's no wonder you need a decent PC to play it.