Will we see bigger battles?

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

No your pc is not the limit. When a $1000 cpu performes the same as a $200 cpu its the programmers/devs fault not the hardwares fault.

stick to the topic, yes the engine supports large battles, as in Il2 it may be a while before some have the hardware to play them though.

[Defender]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

No your pc is not the limit. When a $1000 cpu performes the same as a $200 cpu its the programmers/devs fault not the hardwares fault.

Why not do what 85% of the rest of the game market does and develop for consoles. That market seems content with the results they get and developers don't have to worry about thousands of system configurations. Limited hardware, limited gameplay = short life span. Better yet, build app games for the iphone and ipad...the casual gamers are the new black.

This is a complicated sim, much more complicated than anything else on the market right now. The more complicated these sims get, there is a chance there will be more problems to contend with. The key point here before we start finger pointing is to give the dev's more time to sort it out. It's bad business for them to leave a 6 year development debt when 75% of the game hasn't been released to the market yet.

Off topic there a bit, apologies.


As far as planes go, I'm sure more will be available as we progress through the timeline. From a gameplay standpoint personally I don't like 100+ planes in the air at one spot. Very limited ammo means most of the the pc's resources are being used as cinematics rather than adding anything to gameplay. You're lucky to have enough ammo to shoot down 1 maybe 2 HE 111's before windchester.

Online should be optimized as there isn't the need for AI to occupy CPU cycles, so having more human planes might be easier on the system than having same number of AI.

Not sure on anything yet, still awaiting my CE and apparently a patch or two

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Defender

Why not do what 85% of the rest of the game market does and develop for consoles. That market seems content with the results they get and developers don't have to worry about thousands of system configurations. Limited hardware, limited gameplay = short life span. Better yet, build app games for the iphone and ipad...the casual gamers are the new black.

This is a complicated sim, much more complicated than anything else on the market right now. The more complicated these sims get, there is a chance there will be more problems to contend with. The key point here before we start finger pointing is to give the dev's more time to sort it out. It's bad business for them to leave a 6 year development debt when 75% of the game hasn't been released to the market yet.

Off topic there a bit, apologies.


As far as planes go, I'm sure more will be available as we progress through the timeline. From a gameplay standpoint personally I don't like 100+ planes in the air at one spot. Very limited ammo means most of the the pc's resources are being used as cinematics rather than adding anything to gameplay. You're lucky to have enough ammo to shoot down 1 maybe 2 HE 111's before windchester.

Online should be optimized as there isn't the need for AI to occupy CPU cycles, so having more human planes might be easier on the system than having same number of AI.

Not sure on anything yet, still awaiting my CE and apparently a patch or two

Console ---- wash your mouth out with soap.

Sorry, as an adult I could never get into waving around a little potato looking thingy and doing IL2 or COD. LOL

[hc_wolf]

Sod16 point me to some vids of people with a q6600.
I know sli etc is stuffed by people with epilepsy etc and patches are to come. But I will have to upgrade and wonder if I have to go all out or not.. Show me a system running full graphics with 45+ fps always. Maybe two early for that....

I am getting about 8fps with my set-up.
Below is giving me 8-14fps over land and 14-30fps over water on low to medium settings


Win64 7 ultimate Professional
Panasonic 42' LCD @ native 1980x1080
Q6600 oc to 4.0ghz - fan air cooled
8gig ddr3 OCZ ram
780i EVGA MB
128 OCZ SSD
2x 285GTX SLI

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by hc_wolf

Sod16 point me to some vids of people with a q6600.
I know sli etc is stuffed by people with epilepsy etc and patches are to come. But I will have to upgrade and wonder if I have to go all out or not.. Show me a system running full graphics with 45+ fps always. Maybe two early for that....

I am getting about 8fps with my set-up.
Below is giving me 8-14fps over land and 14-30fps over water on low to medium settings


Win64 7 ultimate Professional
Panasonic 42' LCD @ native 1980x1080
Q6600 oc to 4.0ghz - fan air cooled
8gig ddr3 OCZ ram
780i EVGA MB
128 OCZ SSD
2x 285GTX SLI

Yeooooww!

I don't have COD yet, but if you are having FPS issues I can just imagine what I'll be having with my system.

When I look at your specs I see - whew! lots of expense and then you tell us your FPS. Hard to believe a sim that has been in the works nearly six years and the kind of hardware we have now ... isn't cutting it?

My gosh, there has to be alot of efficiency that we have to pick up in configuration of COD.

[hc_wolf]

Yeah I know. I am Devastated and shocked myself. But I have faith in the Team.

I would happily go out and spend a couple of grand on Saturday to upgrade me and my brother to identical riggs. But I am waiting to see some hard evidence from others on High FPS on full graphics and their PC specs first.

Until then I can just play around in the skinning and maybe look at the mission builder.

God I hope performance, sli and epilepsy issues are patched and released by Saturday morning AEST. I want to LAN till I fall asleep and then LAN some more..

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by hc_wolf

Sod16 point me to some vids of people with a q6600.
I know sli etc is stuffed by people with epilepsy etc and patches are to come. But I will have to upgrade and wonder if I have to go all out or not.. Show me a system running full graphics with 45+ fps always. Maybe two early for that....

I am getting about 8fps with my set-up.
Below is giving me 8-14fps over land and 14-30fps over water on low to medium settings


Win64 7 ultimate Professional
Panasonic 42' LCD @ native 1980x1080
Q6600 oc to 4.0ghz - fan air cooled
8gig ddr3 OCZ ram
780i EVGA MB
128 OCZ SSD
2x 285GTX SLI

There are a few getting much higher fps after some optimizations. Try running only one video card and lowering your resolution. There are a number of other options, like turn off the mirror, and clickable cockpits I've seen in the forums. Like you say you probably still have the epilepsy on, which you should be able to turn off soon.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Sven

That's your world Heliocon, not ours. From videos I've seen clear differences between various systems.

Did I disupute that? I just made a generalised statement which so far is overall true. Hardware makes a differance but if a cpu 4x more powerful can only produce 1.2x the performance then its the softwares fault. Get a grip.

[Stiboo]

As far as I know COD has the same limit on number of aircraft as IL2 -

4 flights X 4 Squadrons..so 64 aircraft on each side = total 128

Multiplayer is also 128 total


This may well change in years to come, although IL2 never increased.



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Originally Posted by Chivas

The game engine is designed to have as many aircraft as your system can handle. The problem is that the code needs to be further optimized. People are struggling with just a few aircraft in the air. This situation will definitely improve over time. How much time is the question.

So anyone with a medium to low spec PC should forget about online dogfight servers where there maybe more than 60 planes???