Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion

So the object density is set by the host then?

Originally Posted by swiss

My turn to refresh:

Where has Luthier ever mentioned there is a better(gamer) PC available?
Quadra GPUs are several thousand dollar a piece(I consider that high-end) - but they are not "for human consumption".

At this point I am pretty sure there are no 480s or 5970s in that office.

he said it here -

Originally Posted by luthier

We have top-notch machines where they are most needed, with the programmers. I have a mid-range or probably even a low-end machine by today's standards myself, which is very helpful in ensuring a lot of you guys get decent performance out of the game! If everyone had a blazing fast PC, who would worry about the framerate?

We've just finished a major round of optimizations last week that drastically improved framerate compared to the Igromir build. We couldn't have done it if everyone at the office ran it at 80 fps to begin with.

And since I take the majority of screenshots for the updates, you guys are stuck with what I have! In order to take screenshots on other machines, I'd have to bump off a programmer, and I'm sure we can all agree it wouldn't be good for the project. Most of them run weird versions of the game unfit for human consumption anyway.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

he said it here -

Luthier's said a lot things in the past, so what.
Live with it - be happy what you get.
Also:
There are enough users here with incredible machines, once CoD is out they will all post their results(guaranteed) here.
Once you have those results, you can decide which card is best for you.

Huge f***ing deal if you can't play CoD with maxed out everything from day one, huh?

and what i posted earlier: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=281

Originally Posted by swiss

Luthier's said a lot things in the past, so what.
Live with it - be happy what you get.
Also:
There are enough users here with incredible machines, once CoD is out they will all post their results(guaranteed) here.
Once you have those results, you can decide which card is best for you.

Huge f***ing deal if you can't play CoD with maxed out everything from day one, huh?

and what i posted earlier: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=281

sigh **** I dont want to know what card is best for me, please remove your blinkers your heading down a tunnel.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by kancerosik

I see that the NEW CoD is not optimiced for panoramical screens. I see the cockpit images as on my 16:9 flying Il2 1946.

I was waiting to see a video where the lateral view is incremented not a video with that "cuts" up and down screen

Pd: hope I'm wrong, what do u think?

Actually, I have no idea what you're talking about.
But hen again that could be just me.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

sigh **** I dont want to know what card is best for me, please remove your blinkers your heading down a tunnel.

Ok, you demand a maxed out out video, and you can resist asking which card it was?
That would be pointless, all you get is eyecandy but you don't know how to reproduce it.




Edit: Plus you're missing one point:

Originally Posted by luthier

If I had a high-end PC, the recommended specs we've released a while ago would have been the minimum specs.

I'm using a mid-range PC for a very specific reason.

You have to understand that my job is to make a good game. It is NOT to market and advertise it. We're a tiny developer working on a shoestring budget. If I have to stop working for a day each week to make videos, we will end up with a kick-ass marketing campaign for a crappy game. I'd rather have it the other way around.

Basically that means they made a game for mid to lower highend PCs.
In case you own a killer machine you'll be rewarded with some additional eyecandy and a better fps.
I don't think you can expect a whole different game or graphics just because you throw in a $600 card.

In the future minspecs will raise dramatically, but we have already seen this happen with il2.

At least, that's they way I understood luthier.

[F19_Klunk]

I would appreciate if those who are engaged in a personal verbal brawl keep it in personal messages and not try to outwit eachother in this thread. This is "Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion" and as far as I am concerned your bickering is polluting a good read.

[BadAim]

You sure do love a good exercise in futility don't you Swiss? Have fun, Mate. I prefer the ignore button.

Your right, of course Klunk. This'll be my last reply here.

[luthier]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Come on Luthier, you know what Im asking for here, a short video taken on one of your better PC's in the office so we can see how the game runs on higher end equipment.

No, you see, you're asking for something that makes absolutely no sense and serves absolutely no purpose.

If we record a video with fraps, it won't give you any idea of the performance since fraps cuts the FPS in half.

If we record a video with our built-in track-to-video converter, that records videos at a fluid framerate on any machine in the world.

Finally, the game is still being optimized and we're improving the graphics and making it slower at the same time. We are hoping that you'd get improved framerates and improved graphic quality in release compared to any benchmarks we run today.

I seriously honestly don't understand what you need. We've released minimum and recommended specs. The better your machine, the better your framerate at a higher resolution with more FSAA.

Originally Posted by Hecke

Could you please specify this a bit more. What is the maximum video memory which is still useful. I'm thinking of a 3Gb video memory card, but it could be wasted money, if you told us that more than 2 gb for example don't give any performance increase.

And I'm also very interested in the 64-bit-on-release question.

I don't know, I'll need to ask the graphics crew on Monday.

What's the 64-bit question? A lot of us run Win7 64-bit however we haven't done any benchmarks comparing 64-bit to 32-bit performance.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by luthier

What's the 64-bit question? A lot of us run Win7 64-bit however we haven't done any benchmarks comparing 64-bit to 32-bit performance.

I think he's asking how much GB the exe can address, max.