so if a bomber takes 2 gunsights at 100m and 1 at 100 m then how many at 150 m?

[raaaid]

so if a bomber takes 2 gunsights at 100m and 1 at 200 m then how many at 150 m?



just imagine you have set convergence at 150 m it would be crucial to know

my asumption:

double distance half amount of gunsights so

distance-gunsights:


25-8
50-4
100-2

150-1.5

200-1
400-0.5
800-0.25

is my reasoning correct because if it is theres a glitch in the matrix i think

compare it with a fighter:

distance-gunsights:

25-4
50-2
100-1
150-not 0.75 closer to 1 than to 0.5
200-0.5
400-0.25
800-0.125

[5./JG27.Farber]

No no no no!

Eye, recticle, object! There are three parts to this. This is why anything that is in the ring is scaled by 10. So a fighter with a 10 metres wingspan that fits once is 100m. Fits twice is 200m. Fits 1 and a half times is 150m. The value of multiplication is always a 100th of its actual size. (for the 109 Revi)

30m bomber fits once he is 300m, fits twice is 600m. Fits 1.5 times is 150m.


Wing span or length multiplied by number of times in the recticle multiplied by 100 = Distance to the target.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

No no no no!

Eye, recticle, object! There are three parts to this. This is why anything that is in the ring is scaled by 10. So a fighter with a 10 metres wingspan that fits once is 100m. Fits twice is 200m. Fits 1 and a half times is 150m. The value of multiplication is always a 100th of its actual size. (for the 109 Revi)

30m bomber fits once he is 300m, fits twice is 600m. Fits 1.5 times is 150m.


Wing span or length multiplied by number of times in the recticle multiplied by 100 = Distance to the target.

I've no idea about the sight, but just looking at your maths, are you sure it isn't 450m?




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[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

No no no no!

Eye, recticle, object! There are three parts to this. This is why anything that is in the ring is scaled by 10. So a fighter with a 10 metres wingspan that fits once is 100m. Fits twice is 200m. Fits 1 and a half times is 150m. The value of multiplication is always a 100th of its actual size. (for the 109 Revi)

30m bomber fits once he is 300m, fits twice is 600m. Fits 1.5 times is 450m.


Wing span or length multiplied by number of times in the recticle multiplied by 10 = Distance to the target.

Yes you are quite right, I was wrong. Also I noticed its not mulitplied by 100 but 10!


30 times 1 times 10 = 300
30 times 2 times 10 = 600
30 times 1.5 times 10 = 450

From "Schiessfibel" by Adolf Galland:

[raaaid]

check your maths sir:

a plane takes two gunsights at 50 m

one gunsight at 100

0.5 gunsights at 200 m

but

at 150 m will take 3 times less than at 50 m an 1.5 times less than at 100

and efectively 2/3 = 1/1.5 = 1.666...

oh dejavu all over

[5./JG27.Farber]

I did, they were corrected.

I cant follow your reasoning after the word "but". Sorry.

[raaaid]

take as basis a fighter at 100 m takes one gunsight

how many does it take at 200 m? 1/2, it will apeear two times samller than at 100 m

so how many at 150 m? 1/1.5=0.666..., it will appear 1.5 times smaller than at 100 m

not .75

now i wonder where did i discuss this before

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Yes you are quite right, I was wrong. Also I noticed its not mulitplied by 100 but 10!


30 times 1 times 10 = 300
30 times 2 times 10 = 600
30 times 1.5 times 10 = 450

From "Schiessfibel" by Adolf Galland:

oki doki, but the real question after that is ............

how can you make sure that the onscreen displayed distant aircraft in your CoD gunsight reticle is 100% displayed correctly in the right size on your pc screen, ie be seen on your monitor in 1:1 correct size comparison as you would see it from that fighter aircraft in real life with the naked eye on the real gunsight reticle ?
note: we are presuming the viewers eyes are at the same distance from their pc screen as they would be in the real cockpit from the real gunsight reticle



hint hint, anybody needs a hint ?

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by zapatista

note: we are presuming the viewers eyes are at the same distance from their pc screen as they would be in the real cockpit from the real gunsight reticle

Errr do you have some kind of magic 3D monitor? Why would it matter how far away you are from a 2D object (the monitor)?

As for your point - why not spill the beans this is a raaaid thread, might as well add more madness.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Errr do you have some kind of magic 3D monitor? Why would it matter how far away you are from a 2D object (the monitor)?.

purely to try and compare apples with apples and standardize the observation criteria between our virtual pilot and the pilot in a real cockpit

eg, lets say our pc gamer has his pc and game correctly setup and he is sitting at a normal comfortable viewing distance from his screen: then if our virtual pc pilot right now looks at a 10 cm wide aircraft displayed on his screen (say a 109 at 100 meters), then if you lean closer to the screen (lets say you 1/2 the distance between your eyes and the screen) then to you as the pc gamer the same 109 at 100 meters will be seen as 2x as large (whereas leaning forward in a real cockpit looking at a real distant aircraft it would stay the same size, because leaning 30 cm closer to an object 100 meters away with the naked eye doesnt significantly change its size to your eye)

bit of a clumsy explanation, but it should get the meaning accross (this is presuming our virtual pilot isnt a player using a track-ir with a 6DoF game, but lets not complicate things any further for now)

for the 2e point, as it turns out our average gaming position in front of a pc monitor on a desk in front of you produces a roughly similar distance for your eyes as they would be in a real cockpit from the gunsight (both are at roughly an arms length from the viewer/player, so lets not quibble about minor differences there)

so,..... i repeat my question: if in a real ww2 fighter aircraft you would see the 109 at 100 meters in front of you displayed as 10 cm wide on your gunsight reticle (and you can in fact place a ruler on the gunsight to measure it), what do you need to do in CoD to make sure you also see a 109 at 100 meters as a 10 cm wide object onscreen in your virtual gunsight reticle ?

eg, many players here with incorrect system setups might in fact only see a 5 cm wide 109 at 100 meters on their pc screen, making that enemy plane harder to track and spot, and harder to aim at. and yes, both gunsight reticle and distant aircraft would then be 1/2 their normal sizes and in the right proportions, so even the 5 cm 109 at 100 m in that example would still fill the gunsight reticle correctly and by measuring the reticle markings you can interpret the size/distance the aircraft would/should be in real life (because in this example both gunsight and distant aircraft have been equally distorted)

again a bit verbose to explain, but you should get the meaning of what i am trying to convey there

so whats the answer ? any self respecting virtual pilot should know the answer to this one (a bit of a jibe in return since you seemed to respond somewhat abrasively to my genuine question)