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Old 07-19-2008, 03:24 AM
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Default Fw-190 Bar.. once and for all...

I got this PM from a trusted community member today... This issue has been around here for as long as I can remember, therefore I am going to sticky this to the top of the boards for 7 days... Then I will move it, but IMO it is important enough and certainly such a historically controversial topic to warrant such treatment.

If he wants to name himself then by all means do so.. but since he sent this to me in a PM I will not post his name. The pictures speak for themselves.

Oleg got it right.

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The statement has been made no one has sat in an FW-190 to show this

This is not true.... I have had the opportunity to sit in an FW-190D13 (Rotte 7 When it was under reconstruction at Champlain in AZ) and take pictures.

When I tried to SHOW this proof I was lambasted...


finally look at this and note the apparent thickness of the glass on the far side versus the actual thickness of the glass on the near side


This speaks volumes, and certainly much louder than the "opinions" of any simmers here, even myself, because I had an "opinion" on the issue as well, and apparently I, like all the others who said otherwise were wrong.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:55 AM
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The picture showing blue line labeled "with refraction" indicates a bar that is somewhat lower than in the sim, relative to the revi.

Is this Correct Thinking? Its been a few years since I played The FB.
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Old 07-19-2008, 06:00 AM
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Very slightly, if at all.

The photograph should be reviewed with care, though:

1. There is no seat in this FW190D13 as you can see from the other pictures taken, so the photograph is guessing the point of view of the pilot inflight.

2. There is no engine and no nose attached, so the photographer is also guessing on the angle of view.

3. If this photograph was taken to model the view in a FW190, the overall visibility should be largely decreased compared to this:


IMHO there are much better pictures from inside complete FW190s present.
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Old 07-19-2008, 08:57 AM
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to late for IL2 Sturmovik!
but see this pictures:











here a video from the FW190A4 Cockpit:
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Old 07-20-2008, 08:13 AM
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here a small Video how a Revi work!

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Old 07-20-2008, 10:31 PM
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Here we go again!

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Old 07-22-2008, 02:10 PM
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Depending how accurate the drawing is, did anyone notice the size of the 'bar'?
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:56 PM
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Maybe its not a bar. Perhaps a pin. Windshield glass create high magnification.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:58 AM
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Depending how accurate the drawing is, did anyone notice the size of the 'bar'?
Thats the hinge for the MG cowling.

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Old 04-16-2011, 02:48 AM
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This is weird.. this looks like a post @UBI.....
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