Why fly the Spitfire?

Its less durable than a hurricane and not too much faster, far less stable and completely useless for shooting down 109s. There is no reason to fly for the red side as far as I can see. Every advantage belongs to the blue with faster planes, deadlier guns and just general superiority. I was just in the syndicate server and there was like 15 blue and 5 red...I left because, well, wtf? Give us an aircraft capable of competeing with the 109 and I might decide to start playing again.

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Formula88

Its less durable than a hurricane and not too much faster, far less stable and completely useless for shooting down 109s. There is no reason to fly for the red side as far as I can see. Every advantage belongs to the blue with faster planes, deadlier guns and just general superiority. I was just in the syndicate server and there was like 15 blue and 5 red...I left because, well, wtf? Give us an aircraft capable of competeing with the 109 and I might decide to start playing again.

The problem is....YOU!!!
One just has to build the energy first before attacking with the spit, and conserve it.
The armament is more then adequate for any blue plane in this sim, just no spray'n'pray -> not enough ammo, only 18 s.
Convergence to 150 m and a correct aim will bring em all down.

I just went on the syn-server, took a spit Ia and went to france, shot down 2 109 before a 40mm aa perforated my left wing, then i had 2 109 on my tail, in the following dogfight i did hurt one before a wild evation maneuver brought my spit in a stall, at 200ft height that ended fatally.
However, 2 and a half victorys before the ack ack brought me down. Not a single hit by the 109's, and they tried really hard.
Oh, usually i fly the 110, i am not very trained on the spit.

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by robtek

in the following dogfight i did hurt one before a wild evation maneuver brought my spit in a stall, at 200ft height that ended fatally.
However, 2 and a half victorys before the ack ack brought me down.

Bloody Tommies, they think a plane damaged is 'half a victory'

[JG14_Jagr]

Years ago I was at a golf tournament and we only had a threesome so a 4th was added. The guy was an older Brit named Hal and while we played he mentioned he had been to Florida in the 40's for flight training while in the RAF. So we started talking and he got into the details of his experiences and how he loved the AT-6 because you could do anything you wanted with it..

He explained that after passing all the screening and his basic flight training he was in a large room (after the BoB, probably 1942) and the Commander walked in and stood before the class and said "Who wants to fly Spitfires?"

Every person in the room stood up enthusiasticly. The Commander looked around and said, "So did I, but they made me a Bomber pilot and thats what I'm making you."

"Hal" ended up piloting a Halifax Bomber over Germany. In all his flights he got hit with flak 3 times and once had a German night fighter fly right across in front of him at very cose range almost on the same heading then never saw him again..

Back to CoD, if you are having trouble killing 109's with the Spitfire you are the problem.. I was routinely getting 2-3 109's before the current Beta messed with Multiplayer for me. If you can get 2-3 Spitfires with a 109 I'll be impressed

[Doc_uk]

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr

Years ago I was at a golf tournament and we only had a threesome so a 4th was added. The guy was an older Brit named Hal and while we played he mentioned he had been to Florida in the 40's for flight training while in the RAF. So we started talking and he got into the details of his experiences and how he loved the AT-6 because you could do anything you wanted with it..

He explained that after passing all the screening and his basic flight training he was in a large room (after the BoB, probably 1942) and the Commander walked in and stood before the class and said "Who wants to fly Spitfires?"

Every person in the room stood up enthusiasticly. The Commander looked around and said, "So did I, but they made me a Bomber pilot and thats what I'm making you."

"Hal" ended up piloting a Halifax Bomber over Germany. In all his flights he got hit with flak 3 times and once had a German night fighter fly right across in front of him at very cose range almost on the same heading then never saw him again..

Back to CoD, if you are having trouble killing 109's with the Spitfire you are the problem.. I was routinely getting 2-3 109's before the current Beta messed with Multiplayer for me. If you can get 2-3 Spitfires with a 109 I'll be impressed

LOL i like that

[Reckless]

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr

If you can get 2-3 Spitfires with a 109 I'll be impressed

how about 6?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YygiM6FXLXQ

[Gollum]

I enjoy flying both the 109 and spitfire. I also exclusively play online. I chose to fly the Ia spitfire and not to fly the IIa spitfire even when it is available because it is currently too powerful compared to the current FM of the 109. The IIa out turns, out climbs, out runs, all others. What fun is that?

Either way, I have no problem getting kills with either plane but there are rules to each.

109, never get into turning battles. If you don't have the altitude advantage then dive the hell away and climb again before attacking. If you get caught with an altitude disadvantage you better hope you have room to dive or that your oponent is a lousy shot giving you enough time to get out of range.

Spit, turning battles are ok but why do this when altitude advantage is your friend. Get the advantage and keep it (same goes for any plan you fly). If you are a turn and burn all the time pilot with no consideration for potential and kinetic energy then there is good reason you are having trouble with 109's. With alt advantage the spit neutralizes the the 109's climb and speed advandage (with the exception of the dive, so don't follow. keep alt and pursue). Without altitude advantage its the 109 who choses when to fight. If you don't have it, you better hope you have a friend that does. I have yet to find a way to "abort" an encounter with 109's swirling like sharks above. My current strategy in this situation is only to wait until a mistake is made by some unfortunate pilot who then gets a motor full of 303s. But who knows, maybe i'll figure something out soon enough. Until then, avoid this situation at all costs.

Try it out and work on your "critial point gunnery" and see if you still hate the spit.

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by Reckless

how about 6?

Nice shooting. Deflection shots were nice. Do that online agains non AI and I'll really be impressed.

[JG14_Jagr]

Originally Posted by Reckless

how about 6?

AI do not count.. I could train a one eyed monkey to shoot down AI

[Doc_uk]

Originally Posted by Formula88

Its less durable than a hurricane and not too much faster, far less stable and completely useless for shooting down 109s. There is no reason to fly for the red side as far as I can see. Every advantage belongs to the blue with faster planes, deadlier guns and just general superiority. I was just in the syndicate server and there was like 15 blue and 5 red...I left because, well, wtf? Give us an aircraft capable of competeing with the 109 and I might decide to start playing again.

Why, Because its a spitfire, who doesnt want to fly a spitfire