Kill streaks?

[jimbop]

In Luthier’s video (translated version here) the guy at the end talks about a ‘kill streaks’ idea where you get bonuses to your aircraft (or whatever) after each kill. What does everyone think about this type of concept?

Personally, I think the only pre-requisites for CoD should be 1) having a system with at least the recommended specs, and 2) the willingness to pay for the game. Someone wants to play with their keyboard and mouse? Great, there should be an appropriate server for that. Someone wants to play against their friends and rack up kill streak bonuses (or whatever), then great, they should be able to do that too. Someone wants a full-real server with historical basis? Excellent, make it so. And I’ll be there too. But I will also be on the other servers, showing them how it’s done (hopefully) and welcoming newbs. At least some them will 'graduate', get the necessary gear and learn the finer aspects.

There is too much elitism about flight simming and this is helping to kill the sector. People need an easier introduction to the genre. Otherwise, do you think our CoD purchases alone will pay for years of updates like we had for IL-2, even if they are paid DLC? Nope, not even close. Volume, not quality, of purchasers is what is required to fund game development into the future.

[Rainmaker]

Kill streak hahahaahahahaha this is cliffs of dover not call of duty

[JG52Krupi]

Leave and never come back, there is a game called birds of prey for the likes of you already...

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Leave and never come back, there is a game called birds of prey for the likes of you already...

This is a good example of the elitism I was talking about. I prefer full real servers - way to make someone feel welcome!

[meshuggahs]

Originally Posted by jimbop

This is a good example of the elitism I was talking about. I prefer full real servers - way to make someone feel welcome!

I prefer a good & realistic game. It's not elitism, it's just a different genere.
If everything had to please the masses we'd all be playing black ops and listening to lady gaga in no time. No thanks...

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by meshuggahs

I prefer a good & realistic game. It's not elitism, it's just a different genere.
If everything had to please the masses we'd all be playing black ops and listening to lady gaga in no time. No thanks...

That's exactly it though - not everything has to please the masses. But something does. These guys need an accurate WW2 flight sim that is a commercial success to expand, not just an accurate WW2 flight sim.

Originally Posted by Vevster

The problem is , what you asking for (playability with mouse, kill streaks etc...) requires development time, therefore money.

For what result? How many people would really like to fly a PC flight sim with a mouse?

Luthier specifically talks about making it easier to play with a keyboard in the vid (if the translation is correct...) The object seems to be to get people interested enough to go the next step. I bet a lot, but obviously not enough from Luthier's comment, did this with IL-2 initially.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by meshuggahs

I prefer a good & realistic game. It's not elitism, it's just a different genere.
If everything had to please the masses we'd all be playing black ops and listening to lady gaga in no time. No thanks...

+1 this game is not aimed at a massive audience any attempt to do so would harm the product in the eyes of the simmers that have been hoping for a new SIM, you will need a joystick to have a go at this game...

Originally Posted by jimbop

This is a good example of the elitism I was talking about. I prefer full real servers - way to make someone feel welcome!

JG52Krupi is a good example of a tw@t who you'd never want to play online with or meet in real life because he'd be insufferable.

I'm guessing his views on education are that we shouldn't be teaching this "ABC and 123 bullsh!t", but start the newbs off with University level courses.

I don't understand their reasoning when they say they do not want options that might allow newcomers to join our ranks. It in no way affects their game, but they still don't want others to have it their way. Do they insist that the places they eat only serve the one meal they like and nothing else?

It's like half this forum watch Rainman and decided to model their lives after him.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

JG52Krupi is a good example of a tw@t who you'd never want to play online with or meet in real life because he'd be insufferable.

I'm guessing his views on education are that we shouldn't be teaching this "ABC and 123 bullsh!t", but start the newbs off with University level courses.

I don't understand their reasoning when they say they do not want options that might allow newcomers to join our ranks. It in no way affects their game, but they still don't want others to have it their way. Do they insist that the places they eat only serve the one meal they like and nothing else?

It's like half this forum watch Rainman and decided to model their lives after him.

Well thanks for that!!!

Love how you can make such generalisations about me from a few posts, I was only conveying my surprise that you can control an aircraft with 4 buttons like in battlefield 1942 am I not allowed to think this is not good for a simulation genre game....

For a keyboard gamer they will have to have keyboard only servers as joystick players will dominate them and that will not endear them to this game.

I started off on il2 as an open cockpit flyer and ended up flying in closed cockpit matches, if I can do that then why does the game need to be made any simpler?

But thanks again for the insults, I welcome new players but not at the risk of the of dumbing down the genre....

[meshuggahs]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

JG52Krupi is a good example of a tw@t who you'd never want to play online with or meet in real life because he'd be insufferable.

I'm guessing his views on education are that we shouldn't be teaching this "ABC and 123 bullsh!t", but start the newbs off with University level courses.

I don't understand their reasoning when they say they do not want options that might allow newcomers to join our ranks. It in no way affects their game, but they still don't want others to have it their way. Do they insist that the places they eat only serve the one meal they like and nothing else?

It's like half this forum watch Rainman and decided to model their lives after him.

Il-2 on the easier settings is far from rocket science. If one is not ready to fly it on that setting, then he/she is not ready for simming in any degree.

I dont see why the dev team should go out of their way to make an ultra-unrealistic mode when all these years they have worked hard in the opposite direction to create an authentic flying model.

Easy mode, yeah sure. It's there.
PEWPEW LAZORZ N LVLUPZ, hell no!