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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-24-2011, 12:03 PM
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This is a good example of the elitism I was talking about. I prefer full real servers - way to make someone feel welcome!
JG52Krupi is a good example of a tw@t who you'd never want to play online with or meet in real life because he'd be insufferable.

I'm guessing his views on education are that we shouldn't be teaching this "ABC and 123 bullsh!t", but start the newbs off with University level courses.

I don't understand their reasoning when they say they do not want options that might allow newcomers to join our ranks. It in no way affects their game, but they still don't want others to have it their way. Do they insist that the places they eat only serve the one meal they like and nothing else?

It's like half this forum watch Rainman and decided to model their lives after him.
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:36 PM
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JG52Krupi is a good example of a tw@t who you'd never want to play online with or meet in real life because he'd be insufferable.

I'm guessing his views on education are that we shouldn't be teaching this "ABC and 123 bullsh!t", but start the newbs off with University level courses.

I don't understand their reasoning when they say they do not want options that might allow newcomers to join our ranks. It in no way affects their game, but they still don't want others to have it their way. Do they insist that the places they eat only serve the one meal they like and nothing else?

It's like half this forum watch Rainman and decided to model their lives after him.
Well thanks for that!!!

Love how you can make such generalisations about me from a few posts, I was only conveying my surprise that you can control an aircraft with 4 buttons like in battlefield 1942 am I not allowed to think this is not good for a simulation genre game....

For a keyboard gamer they will have to have keyboard only servers as joystick players will dominate them and that will not endear them to this game.

I started off on il2 as an open cockpit flyer and ended up flying in closed cockpit matches, if I can do that then why does the game need to be made any simpler?

But thanks again for the insults, I welcome new players but not at the risk of the of dumbing down the genre....
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:40 PM
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JG52Krupi is a good example of a tw@t who you'd never want to play online with or meet in real life because he'd be insufferable.

I'm guessing his views on education are that we shouldn't be teaching this "ABC and 123 bullsh!t", but start the newbs off with University level courses.

I don't understand their reasoning when they say they do not want options that might allow newcomers to join our ranks. It in no way affects their game, but they still don't want others to have it their way. Do they insist that the places they eat only serve the one meal they like and nothing else?

It's like half this forum watch Rainman and decided to model their lives after him.
Il-2 on the easier settings is far from rocket science. If one is not ready to fly it on that setting, then he/she is not ready for simming in any degree.

I dont see why the dev team should go out of their way to make an ultra-unrealistic mode when all these years they have worked hard in the opposite direction to create an authentic flying model.

Easy mode, yeah sure. It's there.
PEWPEW LAZORZ N LVLUPZ, hell no!
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:43 PM
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Il-2 on the easier settings is far from rocket science. If one is not ready to fly it on that setting, then he/she is not ready for simming in any degree.

I dont see why the dev team should go out of their way to make an ultra-unrealistic mode when all these years they have worked hard in the opposite direction to create an authentic flying model.

Easy mode, yeah sure. It's there.
PEWPEW LAZORZ N LVLUPZ, hell no!
Exactly, if they want to fly like that there are plenty of much more open games such as battlefield 1942 that they can "fly" in.
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:53 PM
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What a lot of narrow-minded buggers we have in here.

I like flying full-switch no externals. But I'm quite aware that there are people that don't. Why shouldn't they be able to fly with four buttons if they want the rest of the trappings of this game to go along with it? Wonderful, destructible aircraft with detailed cockpits, big massive maps and plenty of authentic vehicles to shoot at. As long as my experience doesn't suffer, who cares what they are doing on their servers?

Unlike Call of Duty and other FPSes, this game *already* has toggleable difficulty settings, and so did every iteration of the game right back to Il-2 Sturmovik 1.0 and practically every flight sim before it. The idea that creating options for mainstream gamers is somehow going to destroy the experience of the full-switch players is pretty silly.

It's like saying that the people on FUN4ALL or whatever on Hyperlobby have ruined Il-2 for everyone.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:05 PM
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From personal experience flying with a keyboard against someone using a joystick is about as fun as punching yourself in the face, I am open to a wider audience but it can't be tacked on it needs server settings otherwise peoples fun will be short lived, we all know there will be players who would love nothing more than to kill everyone in a newbie server and claim how good they are.


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Thanks for justifying a personal attack on me for speaking my mind....

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Old 03-24-2011, 01:11 PM
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@Krupi Yeah, this is true. But that's what matchmaking and newbie servers are for. The average skill level in Il-2 servers is already very high for new players, I couldn't say that it makes all that much difference how bad the equipment a newb has as to whether they get stomped over and over or not when they first start.

In any case, many of these casual players are those who will play single player campaigns and online only against friends to start with anyway.

Like maclean says, often competitiveness is all that people will need to go out and invest in new equipment once they decide they like a game.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:39 PM
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Of course, I wouldn't mind if we really deserved a DFC we would get summonsed to Buckingham Palace and get it pinned on my Good Old King George Himself!
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:47 PM
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Thanks for justifying a personal attack on me for speaking my mind....
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Leave and never come back, there is a game called birds of prey for the likes of you already...
Interesting double-standard you got there, Krupi Someone needs thicker skin, especially since my post wasn't directly aimed at you.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:48 PM
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Hmmmm...



Interesting double-standard you got there, Krupi Someone needs thicker skin, especially since my post wasn't directly aimed at you.
Damit I did mean to have a smiley face at the end of that post ....

Either way the use of insults here is getting out of hand.

Just realised the OP said eliteism is bad and killstreak in the same thread, killstreaks are seen as a sign of eliteness, but just ruin games in the end.

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