Flight Stick Axis Sensitivity?

[SEE]

Having poroblems controlling Stall and Spin on many of the stock a/c ( Cyborg X flightstick). I know that the flightstick response can be tailored in the menus and the user manual suggests alternative settings but wondered if the majority of you experienced iL2 flyers were using the same settings for the axis response for all a/c or do you adjust the Axis sensitivity for each and every a/c that you pilot?

The LA5 for example is fine with the default settings but, switch to a Spitfire or a P51-D for example) and the slightest deviation of the stick results in stalling or spinning. I do not want to disable 'stall and spins'.

[AndyJWest]

At the moment, having to alter stick response each time for different aircraft would be a pain, and I expect most of us just find a compromise that works for us. Whet suits you may not be what suits others, but as you say the manual suggests an alternative setup if you are having problems:

For those who experience difficulties controlling aircraft with the default joystick profile (axis
sensitivity curves in the Input menu),we provide sensitivity curves that we found more suit-
able for most of the modern input devices.
To set up the curves,go to the Input menu under the Hardware Setup in the Main Menu,and
adjust the values according the following chart:
Pitch:
0 5 10 17 25 33 43 54 71 100
Roll:
0 3 7 15 25 35 50 66 84 100
Yaw:
0 8 19 29 39 51 62 75 86 100

Note that though this reduces sensitivity near the stick centre position, it will increase it at the extremes - if it didn't, you wouldn't get full control surface movement.

As I understand it, Team daidolos were looking at including multiple user-defined control setups in a future patch - enabling different sensitivity curves for different aircraft.

The P-51 is a bit of a beast for a beginner - it is a little easier to handle with a lower fuel load. With Spitfires, force feedback helps if you have it - you feel the shake at the onset of stall. Otherwise, you have to rely on visual signs, and experience. If you are really struggling, try something with easier handling - a Hurricane perhaps, or one of the earlier Japanese fighters - they are mostly fairly forgiving.

[SEE]

Cheers Andy, tried a variety of settings and eventually resolved the 'instabilty'. I will modify the Elevator axis profile for each of the aircraft, the Aileron axis profile seems fine left at one set of values.

[tagTaken2]

Check to make sure the joystick values in config.ini have 0 at the end, ie:

0 0 5 10 17 25 33 43 54 71 100 0

Should be 12 figures all together, first 0 is for deadzone, last 0 is for filtering. Game seems to clip the last one occasionally, causes erratic input for me. I set config.ini as read-only after I've made any changes.

[David198502]

hey guys!
hey evangeluse!!!!
as i play now for about one week this game, i have the same problems like SEE setting up the sensitivities of the axis. i have set the roll and the pitch axis up to your recommendation AndyJwest, but i dont know where i can change the yaw axis as it doesnt appear in my menu!???can somebody tell me where i can find it!? and what is the filter under the axis meaning?thx for all information.

[AndyJWest]

From the manual (manual.pdf in your IL-2 folder):

ADDITIONAL IN-GAME JOYSTICK SETTINGS
Find and press the Hardware Setup button in the game’s Main Menu.You are now in the
Hardware Setup menu.Press the Input button.Here you can set up the following features for
your joystick:
•Dead Band is used to set a dead zone where small movements of the stick will cause
almost no reaction.This feature can be helpful if you are playing a flight simulator for the
first time or have the old type of joystick.If you are an experienced flight simmer,we
strongly recommend that you set Dead Band in the left position or very close to the left
position.
•Filtering allows you to set a digitized filter if your joystick has problems with adequate
reaction.
•You can select basic joystick axes and change their profiles by using Fine-Tuning in the
special table to adjust the stick reaction curve.Some joysticks need fine-tuning,but
most work correctly with our default settings.You can select the axis for fine-tuning in
the left combo box.
•To enable or disable the Force Feedback feature,set the Force Feedback switch to on or off.
•If you find that our initial settings were more appropriate than your changes,press the
Default button.All the settings will revert to default status.
•Press Back to quit this menu.Any changes made will be applied automatically.

AS for why the rudder axis settings don't show, I don't know. How are you controlling the rudder? Pedals? Twisty joystick?

[David198502]

hey SEE!
man this game is a hardcore simulator, so fascinating and frustrating at the same time for beginners.
i have the same time to keep up with other aircrafts in campaign missions.
but refering to the joystick sensitivity, i have set now all the bars on 100 and im getting use to it.cause my biggest problem was that if i left the last bar on 100 but pulled down the other 9, then the joystick suddenly reacts more sensitive in a turn which lead to a stall for me.but set everything on 100 you recognize when the plane is about to stall and can react properly.
my only real succes is that i already shot some planes down online.

[SEE]

Hi David, it's a lot more challenging than any other SIM for sure. I will go MP when I have completed more SP missions. I should have bought IL1946 a long time ago but my old PC wasn't good enough. Maybe catch you on line soon (when I can comfortably deal with enemy AI that is......) and well done if you are getting MP kills already!

[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by David198502

hey SEE!
man this game is a hardcore simulator, so fascinating and frustrating at the same time for beginners.
i have the same time to keep up with other aircrafts in campaign missions.
but refering to the joystick sensitivity, i have set now all the bars on 100 and im getting use to it.cause my biggest problem was that if i left the last bar on 100 but pulled down the other 9, then the joystick suddenly reacts more sensitive in a turn which lead to a stall for me.but set everything on 100 you recognize when the plane is about to stall and can react properly.
my only real succes is that i already shot some planes down online.

Well David.. when you put all bars on 100 and the last (higher) few slightly lower (not less than 85%), you will be 'allowed' to fly the 190 in 'nirvana'.
Hope you have rudder pedals...

Remember to relax when pressing the trigger - don't over-react/jerk the joystick.