We and you deserve it

[engadin]

It would be nice of 1C if at the time bugs get finally sorted out - sure they will get in a pristine and bright springtime morning - there would be some type of, lets call it, 'reward' for the CoD community as a whole after all the patience showed and free bug finding contribution & patch testing time expent by hundreds and hundreds of CoD simmers. Mainly when an expected fully playable and enjoyable sim was what all of us had payed for, a long, long time ago. And things turned out to be a very different way, weren't they?.

Let me put it this way: in any other industry - engineering, legal, architecture, ... - a more than unsufficiently tested 'final' product handed to the client as the final and working product, having been already paid the whole accorded price for it, is, at least, the start flag waving for a huge and long legal and financial trouble for the producer company. Not taking into account the marketing disaster coming along with it, given news would burn like powder in the media, fueled by other companies competing in the same niche.

Well, we are CoD's final clients and no big trouble for 1C, IMHO, but a handful of more than sad and logically unpatient and therefore frustrated simmers complaints - that nevertheless keep up their loyalty to CoD - have arisen so far. And most of the critics have been checked so reasonable and close to the real truth they are not to blame most of times.

Not only do we keep cheering up every update through all these years - yes, no weeks, months, but years! - but we put up with the broken expectatives of failling patches, take the time and effort to help 1C - once and again - with bug reporting (now @ il2bugtracker.com but at the different forums before), emailing crash dump files and again to wait for next friday or else.

I don't think I am exagerating not even a tiny bit, but naturally I may be wrong though, if I reasonably conclude that all explained above is the closest thing you'll find to REAL LOVE by a sim community for a sim like CoD!!

Real Love to a fantastic-yet-to-be-but-getting-increasingly-closer product, our beloved CoD, and all of you at the other side of the mirror: Black6, Luthier, etc.. and the 1C team. Don´t want to forget moderator's unpayable job too.

As for myself, the time and effort 1C members put in the sim is undoubtedly huge, but you get paid for it, my friends. We don't but we are certainly working along with you, shoulder to shoulder ... for years. And you, people at 1C DO KNOW IT, ARE AWARE OF IT or "put it any other way else".

So, please, open your russian hearts and finally admit we deserve it, in any way and whenever you decide it to be. But let it be.

Not thinking of a free BoM copy - he, he - but ... I don't know but sure you're creative enough to find the way to let us feel you appreciate our deep heartlyfelt long time support.

Did you think getting CoD to its brillant & outstanding future final status was a big challenge and once you get it, that was it? Please put the sweetest cherry on top your/our cake to end it up.

You also deserve it.

AA_Engadin

[5./JG27.Farber]

We will be compensated... The compensation will be we have a sim we all want to fly... Know of any other WW2 flightsims with as much scope as this? Please share it!

I know what your saying but as you said each industry is different... Dont get me wrong, I pull my hair out and scream etc when the game fluffs up but this is what we have and this is the future, so buckle up!

[159th_Jester]

I'm sure that if your average flight sim developer made as much profit as your average lawyer, architect or engineer, they'd be happy to oblige.

A study of basic economics will reveal why, for 1C or any other developer to do as you suggest, would very shortly render them out of business.

[Luftwaffepilot]

There will be plenty of time to think about this before the sim is anywhere near that.

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester

I'm sure that if your average flight sim developer made as much profit as your average lawyer, architect or engineer, they'd be happy to oblige.

A study of basic economics will reveal why, for 1C or any other developer to do as you suggest, would very shortly render them out of business.

Well said.

I don't know what those guys are making money wise but they haven't had any real infux of cash in to their business since the last release. Unless there is something I am missing they're not in it for the big bucks.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by engadin

there would be some type of, lets call it, 'reward' for the CoD community as a whole after all the patience showed and free bug finding contribution & patch testing time expent by hundreds and hundreds of CoD simmers.

It is too bad you were not around for the past 10 or so years of IL-2.. Where 1C realesed several patches that not only fixxed bugs but included new planes and maps free of charge. Than you wouldn't have had to even post this thread.

[engadin]

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester

I'm sure that if your average flight sim developer made as much profit as your average lawyer, architect or engineer, they'd be happy to oblige.

A study of basic economics will reveal why, for 1C or any other developer to do as you suggest, would very shortly render them out of business.

... not to mention about business consultancy ... but in that other businesses you get what you pay, mostly, at a certain date and under certain conditions, given the exorbitant amounts of money involved and the huge risks providers run.

I was not talking about money, anyway, but about realizing & recognizing what we, the customers, have done and are doing for 1C: just as clear as this. You win with our money, effort, patience and hope, so please, realize it is fair to let us win something beyond what we should already have and still don't.

Guess times are not for money falling off their pockets and it may sound hilarious asking for a little gift in the shape of ..... name it! An additional plane, another map or a better one, certain nice looking feature or sound, moving troops, so many to mention!

AA_Engadin

[BH_woodstock]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

It is too bad you were not around for the past 10 or so years of IL-2.. Where 1C realesed several patches that not only fixxed bugs but included new planes and maps free of charge. Than you wouldn't have had to even post this thread.

well said AOA.
Those were good times,I never complained once.
Lets remember this another 7-10 years from now.The one thing i can say for sure about this community is that we have all grown old together over the years and i wouldnt trade it for anything.The friends that are made here last a lifetime on and off the gaming field.It funny how i consider most of you better friends than the moron up the road who just waves as they drive by you.If im not in lobby for a few days i get phone calls to see if all is well.You cant beat that anywhere.

im compensated just for being here

I also want to add a BIG THANK YOU and SALUTE to TD for keeping il2 1946 flying with new content and patches.you guys kick ass!!

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by BH_woodstock

It funny how i consider most of you better friends than the moron up the road who just waves as they drive by you

As different as all of us here are.. We all do have one thing in common.. Flight Sim Sickness!

[ATAG_Snapper]

I truly wish each and every member of the team be advised that once Cliffs of Dover is signed off as "complete" ie as originally intended: gameplay, coding performance & stability, ALL features finished in good fashion, added flyables for both sides, FM's & DM's measuring up for all a/c, cockpits corrected, animations completed, and...wait for it...a freacking COOP mission(s).........then each member receive a HUGE bonus spelled out in actual rubles/Euros/US dollars for each. Positive incentive here would be a good thing.