Toe Break Set-up Problem

[BadBud]

I have a button set for toe breaks on my Saitek x52 controller, and want the R/L toe break Axis set for ground turning on my CHProducts Pro rudder pedals. But I have not been able to set the toe breaks as yet. In the Control/Axis menu, I double-click on left break and depress left toe break and it is applied, but when I double-click on right break and depress the right toe break, the same left break response comes up asking if I want to replace it ..........not good! What might I be doing wrong?
Thank you for any help,
BadBud
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[ATAG_Bliss]

Hi BadBud,

More than likely your problem has to do with what aircraft you are flying. I'm going to assume you are flying allied craft?

The Allied planes do not have toe brakes in RL and Cliffs has them modeled as such. For instance the spitfire has a handle on your control yoke you'd squeeze with one hand to apply braking pressure. But the real kicker is the differential braking occurs by the control of the rudder. If you look in the lower left of your instrument panel you'll see a differential brake pressure gauge. So as you are moving the rudder left or right you'll notice more brake pressure / applying power has been applied to the right or left side via when moving the rudder and holding the brake handle down.

So basically you'll have toe brakes in Axis aircraft, but you'll have differential braking in Allied aircraft. So you'll need to assign a different key for the use of brakes for the allied craft as toe brakes will not work. Most people assign toe brakes as you normally would and use those for the Axis craft, then have a brake lever / keyboard button / or similar assigned for brakes in the Allied craft.

If you look through the controls you'll see a separate assignment for braking. This is what you'll need to use for Allied craft. It's not a problem with your controls, it's just how the planes really were.

If this isn't your issue, then disregard everything I just said

[BadBud]

Thanks,
Badbud

[BadBud]

Got the toe breaks set now in the sim and yes they do NOT work on the Brit planes, but do on the German. Why the setting took this time.............I do not know. I think once you screw up trying to set an axes up, you may have to shut the sim down and try again, which I did.
Thanks for the good advice.
BadBud
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[ATAG_Bliss]

Good stuff. Glad you got it working

[Osprey]

For allied you can only set 1 of the 2 on the toe brakes, then it's digital, just like 1946. It needs fixing, it sucks.

[Artist]

Originally Posted by Osprey

For allied you can only set 1 of the 2 on the toe brakes, then it's digital, just like 1946. It needs fixing, it sucks.

No, it doesn't, Osprey. At least for the Spitfire Mk IIa I know that there wasn't any toe breaking. It was a lever on the spade-stick. And the differential breaking was done by applying left or right rudder. So assign a button on your joystick, use rudder and watch the differential break pressure on the gauge at the lower left...

Artist

[Osprey]

I know how it's meant to work, I'm just saying it's digital - full on or off.

Have you found an analogue method?

[WTE_Galway]

Actually IL2_1946 braking was not "digital".

If you assigned the brake function to a slider in 1946 you got variable brake pressure with differential pressure controlled by the pedals. The slider controlled the overall strength of braking and the pedals distributed it left/right.

What you could not do in 1946 is assign two brake pedals, hence no differential toe braking.

BACK ON TOPIC

The toe braking was an important advantage of the axis planes, especially on rough fields, so implementing it for allied planes would be giving the allied side an unhistorical advantage.

[Sokol1]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

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What you could not do in 1946 is assign two brake pedals, hence no differential toe braking.

With a exploit in config.ini or using CH Mannager one is able to use "toe brakes" in any plane of IL-2 1946.

Sokol1