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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger
Who are these "hard core anti 777 guys of whom you speak"? Personally I think you are being too dramatic.
None of the comments expressed in this thread match the pure hatred or venom and the malicious vitriol that was directed at the developers of IL2-COD. It was as if there was a campaign trying to make them fail.
Eveyone on this form wants Jason to produce the BEST flight sim available. It's just that some people are expressing concern that they do not think he will succeed.
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Look, I understand why some IL-2 fans might be concerned, I totally get that but I don't think you need to look very hard to see that some on this forum are flat out against anything that 777 does, I am not sure why and perhaps it is just a extension of the anger that they feel after being ditched by the higher ups at 1C and Ubisoft but that is not the ROF fanbase's fault.
Also, I have seen some of your posts, while they don't carry the venom that some of the others do, they do insinuate that ROF is not a sim and that is just silly, if you say that ROF is not a sim then you might as well say that CloD is not a sim either, clickable cockpits or not, both do a very good job at simulating the aircraft (I do agree that ROF does not simulate the war very well but it does a fantastic job with the aircraft, even you have to admit that).
I think this whole thing became clear to me when folks on this forum try to say that CloD even beats DCS titles in the level of simulation, that is absurd as the DCS sims are easily more detailed in terms of flight dynamics, systems modeling, damage model and weapon performance than any other sim on the market, I don't say this as a DCS fanboy, I say this as a flight sim fanboy, one only needs to spend a short time with DCS A-10C to see that it is really something special, sure, the land does not look amazing but that still does not stop it from being the best air/ground combat sim on the market.
Ugh, starting to ramble, gotta cut this short.
CloD is a good sim, if anyone tries to tell me it is not, I tell them that they are wrong but I also think it is wrong to assume that it is the best, it is not and it really should not be used as a example for future projects as it really has it's annoying issues that should never have been there in the first place.
When I want to fly a quick mission in CloD, I have to set up one of the pre-builts so that it can be opened in the editor, open it in the editor, alter the plane types, AI (for all the good it does), change the ammo belts to my customs and then I can click play.
With IL-2 1946 and ROF, I can pick my map, my plane, the enemy, if I want a airstart or a ground start (I loathe air starts) and even alter my loadout, no fuss, no muss. I think this is a good example of why CloD should not be held up so high that we fail to see it's flaws, it is a good sim but the new IL-2 would be wise to steer clear of it's mistakes.
I play both, I enjoy both, I hate this feeling that I get in this forum that I have to choose a side because I have already chosen both.