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Old 08-02-2012, 09:25 AM
Sternjaeger II Sternjaeger II is offline
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Originally Posted by F19_Klunk View Post
After reading pretty much all the posts in here, all the arguments on both sides, what you wrote there mate pretty much sums everything up;

What seems like "common sense" for an individual, is derived from a person's innermost conviction and fundamental values, and that is the reason why - even though we lot sometimes seems to be very much alike - we are so different... surprisingly different.
For me and many others, the phrases "common sense" and "owning a gun" is a contradiction in terms.

My only input is; we quite clearly live in very different circumstances. We feel sorry for you guys having to live in a society where you can get your hands on leathal guns so easily, and you guys feel sorry for us not beeing able to "defend ourselves".

I really don't see any of us beeing able to convince "the other side" to change stance in this issue. I also know that there is no point for us Europeans trying to convince Americans, as we are mostly beeing glanced upon as beeing "patronizing" when it comes to issues like this. IF there is to be a change in the US, it has to come from within.

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you see, it's broader than that, and guns are only an example, it's about individual freedom and possibility to choose over matters.

I don't want a government to touch my fundamental rights, I want a government to fix the problems of society that bring stuff like crime. The fact that a criminal can potentially get hold of a gun is only the end result of a government that can't prevent crime by applying the right social policies, and convince their population that the solution is to remove guns out of the equation to make our society safer. But it's not the case, people keep on dying, being attacked, raped, robbed, so something doesn't quite work. Crime is on the rise, and the situation is that law abiding citizen are left defenceless and not given the option to defend their loved ones in an appropriate manner.