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Old 01-01-2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM View Post
First, the P-51 wasn't know for some "high speed spin characteristics" in real life, sorry. It's always some point people trying to impinge to this aircraft in basis of IL-2 model. The P-51 was know as one of the better WWII aircrafts, stable, reliable. And the loss of control in high speed maneuvers still there, but in HIGH SPEEDS AND AGREESIVE MANEUVERS, as any other aircraft, and in P-51 - because os laminar airflow wing, or other model factor - is more intense than other aircraft in IL-2.

What we don't have more are medium-low speed crazy stalls/spins.

Regards turn fighting in P-51, I got two 109s in the initial turn. The P-51 now is stable an as in real life can turn great initialy, but in IL-2 and real life can't sustain energy in slow turning against an 109. So, the P-51 isn't a Spitfire, but it CAN TURN FIGHT A DORA OR ANTON, for example, without enter in a crazy spin.
It always could.

Before this patch P51 was still the better Allied plane (my favourite one): I love escort mission or free hunt over Germany in it. If you're smart you are untouchable.

The spin was there but you could avoid it with a pair of hours of tight dogfight to understand the plane's limits. That spin at high speed was a little annoying when you thought that you have a good firing solution if you pull the stick a little bit more... anyway you could wait for the next attack since in a P51 it's not a "now or never": you ARE faster with a really good BnZ trait.

If it was wrong I'm happy they fixed it.

But still P51 is one of many allied airplanes when instead Germany can count only in two main airplane types (three if we see the Dora as a complete different 190). One kind of these, the Anton one, is still not accurate with its awful energy retention. I don't understand why it's not been fixed in these years...
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.

Last edited by 6S.Manu; 01-01-2011 at 12:33 PM.
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