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ilmavoimat 09-30-2012 02:06 AM

Transports
 
Just a thought, as a change from endless dogfights any chance in the future of a C-47 and Ju52 as flyables. Neither side could have achieved anything wiyhout them and there would be plenty of FMB possibilities for Stalingrad, Normandy, Burma etc and they'd both make good multi engine trainers for instrument flying practice.

Bolelas 09-30-2012 11:34 AM

I gess it is not asking to much, and would give the game something very diferent. I can imagine myself flying one of those cargos, doing navigation etc, and some(human) fighters ascorting :)

Luno13 09-30-2012 06:12 PM

+1 I would love 'unarmed' transport or recon missions :)

Nil 10-02-2012 01:13 AM

Junkers 52, DC3...
I dream to have those planes with accurate cockpit and realistic handling.
At least for dropping paratroops on airfield, and as stated above, they had a very important role in the war.

Personnaly, I use also 1946 as a flight simulator (peace) I do not know why I prefer to fly in this sim than FS9 or FSX
Maybe I feel IL2 1946 more "authentic" or immersive.

Thus flying a transport for war or not would be so nice.

ElAurens 10-02-2012 01:22 AM

Both are flyable in modded versions of the sim.

Once the "new" wears off, they just get you to the smoking hole in the ground a little bit slower than a fighter or bomber, and you always end up a smoking hole in the ground if any enemy air opposition is around.

Nil 10-02-2012 01:59 AM

There are flyable in the modded version, but their cockpit are not accurate, and their handling are bad.
After, being shot is not or not is not the point as it is a matter of skill and cooperation with little friends.
A transport mission is also a war mission.

Nil 10-13-2012 09:57 PM

The Li2 took a very important role in the war, not only as a transport, but also as a bomber (2*500kg or 4*250 kg bomb) thousands were build during the war
Here is a very nice documentary in English about this plane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrQqh4LVaS4

http://imageshack.us/a/img72/466/li2niivvs.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/5417/li2coc.jpg

1984 10-13-2012 11:14 PM

well, about soviet "transport" li-2 - do not expect to carry only anti-aircraft gunners (зенитчицы:)) and canned meat - all planes was armed and have, at least, one machine gun...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nil (Post 469216)
The Li2 took a very important role in the war, not only as a transport, but also as a bomber (2*500kg or 4*250 kg bomb) thousands were build during the war

yeah, and what i found now about weapon loads for Li-2 bomber, in total (it's li-2 with or 4 shkas, or 3 shkas and 1 UBT) -

lot of small bombs (i think, ao-2.5, ao-25 etc)...

lot of fab-100...

4 fab-250...

2 fab-500 and 2 fab-250...

4 fab-500 (overload)...

4 rs-82...

well...:) if only half of this true, it's really not bad for "just cargo"...

shelby 10-14-2012 08:06 AM

shall we have transports for Great Britain and Japan for il2?

Pursuivant 11-17-2012 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 466035)
Once the "new" wears off, they just get you to the smoking hole in the ground a little bit slower than a fighter or bomber, and you always end up a smoking hole in the ground if any enemy air opposition is around.

No worse than some other hapless early war planes in the game like the Devastator or the D3A1.

Also, keep in mind that the Ju-52 was successfully used as a bomber during the SCW and that versions of the Li-2 and DC-3 were used as improvised bombers during WW2 and post-WW2 conflicts.

While I agree that the transports should be at the back of the line for cockpits until every single-engine plane in the game is flyable, they would be welcome additions - some day.

For the moment, what would be useful would be improved loadouts reflecting different amounts of cargo and balance points, as well as bomb loadouts where appropriate. There would also be no harm in improving their FM with an eye towards eventually modeling their cockpits and crew stations.


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