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hc_wolf 10-04-2011 12:18 AM

If Land > Refuel, Re-arm, Repair is implemented...How long should each stage take?
 
There are two types of Dynamic Campaign missions been created by skillful scripters here.

Dynamic Missions (One ongoing game loaded on a server where battle is played out over days with land sea and air units) Dynamic war.

Dynamic Campaigns ( Missions loaded in order, but you can land refuel etc.. and keep going till you complete objectives, win medels etc) a little more linear and scripted then the above.

We are only going to get true dynamic and long....long playtime in a single session or ongoing war over a few days if we can implement Land > Refuel, Re-arm (maybe repair = longer wait) and takeoff. Maybe Prison also..


But if this is implemented...

How long should each take?
How long are you willing to sit there online waiting for the above..?

5 mins, 10 mins 20 mins?? :confused:

ElAurens 10-04-2011 12:32 AM

No one I know is going to wait 5 minutes to have his virtual steed made ready again, much less 20 minutes.

I've played missions in modded IL2 with Rearm, Refuel, Repair and just sitting there waiting 30 seconds for a refuel felt like an eternity.

Just my opinion of course.

*EDIT*

Offliners may find these long waits more appealing, but for online? No way I'd waste what little time I have to play sitting there waiting for some arbitrary length of time to pass. "Refly" is still the best option.

salmo 10-04-2011 12:44 AM

I find the Zuti MDS (Il2-1946) defaults to be satisfactory.

Repair engine = 90s
Repair flaps = 30s
Repair cockpit = 30s
Repair 1 x MG/cannon = 3s
Repair 1 x F/O tank = 20s
Repair cables = 15s
Refuel = 3s/kg

MadBlaster 10-04-2011 02:21 AM

i think I read in the last ZUTI doc that there was a way to base it on proximity. so if you park your plane right next to the ammo dump, it rearms faster. If you park far away, it takes longer. thought that was pretty cool feature.

Mr Greezy 10-04-2011 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salmo (Post 343619)
I find the Zuti MDS (Il2-1946) defaults to be statisfactory.

Repair engine = 90s
Repair flaps = 30s
Repair cockpit = 30s
Repair 1 x MG/cannon = 3s
Repair 1 x F/O tank = 20s
Repair cables = 15s
Refuel = 3s/kg


This seems like it would be perfect. You want to make it quicker than just exiting and getting in a new plane and warming it up.

Codex 10-04-2011 03:01 AM

This is an interesting topic.

You could model it off a particular battle. I can't recall the pilots name, but I recall the pilots story where he flew an FW-190F8, I think it might even be "White 1" that is being restored but I'm not 100% sure on that. He mentioned that he flew about 5 to 10 sorties a day during a very heated battle on the Russian front because his airfield was so close to the action.

So using a 10 sortie day. You fly off, bomb your targets, land and re-arm (refuel) if needed, and go round again, your looking at 50min / sortie, so you could say 10 min for all the groundwork operations between each sortie.

Just a thought.

salmo 10-04-2011 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadBlaster (Post 343643)
i think I read in the last ZUTI doc that there was a way to base it on proximity. so if you park your plane right next to the ammo dump, it rearms faster. If you park far away, it takes longer. thought that was pretty cool feature.

... or with the script that spawns ambulance/fuel/fire trucks after you land, you could start refueling/repair after the troops arrive at your plane.

JG53Harti 10-04-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hc_wolf (Post 343609)


But if this is implemented...

How long should each take?
How long are you willing to sit there online waiting for the above..?

5 mins, 10 mins 20 mins?? :confused:

like in real life ? ;) :)

10 - 15 min depending on what should be done.

PeterPanPan 10-04-2011 10:31 AM

See my interview with Spitfire rigger John Milne ...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26512


Me: So how long did it take to refuel a Spitfire.

JM: About 10 minutes. The Spitfire only had 2 small tanks.


PPP

JG53Harti 10-04-2011 10:52 AM

Yes, just refueling. But you need also new ammo and sometimes the aircraft must be repaired ;)


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