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jf1981 04-24-2011 11:06 AM

FM and real flight
 
Hi,

I'm wondering about if the dev team could implement a FM closer from reality in terms of behaviour and all the small instabilities that occur particularly when flying low as the groud disturbs the laminar flow of wind when you get closer from the ground.

Particularly, I find CoD Supermarine Spitfire being a little bit heavy and too much stable in my opinion at about 90 to 110 mph approach and touch, more heavy than it seems to be in some videos of the real one making approachs.

I wonder how much complex and realistic is the FM engine, and about the wind turbulences al low altitude, but I have the feeling that it could be even closer from reality.

Jean-François

Sternjaeger II 04-24-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jf1981 (Post 272156)
Hi,

I'm wondering about if the dev team could implement a FM closer from reality in terms of behaviour and all the small instabilities that occur particularly when flying low as the groud disturbs the laminar flow of wind when you get closer from the ground.

Particularly, I find CoD Supermarine Spitfire being a little bit heavy and too much stable in my opinion at about 90 to 110 mph approach and touch, more heavy than it seems to be in some videos of the real one making approachs.

I wonder how much complex and realistic is the FM engine, and about the wind turbulences al low altitude, but I have the feeling that it could be even closer from reality.

Jean-François

I take it that you posted this helpful comment based on your experience flying real Spitfires, or your perception of "reality" is another Hollywood/home video/videogame based one? :rolleyes:

seaeye 04-24-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 272168)
I take it that you posted this helpful comment based on your experience flying real Spitfires, or your perception of "reality" is another Hollywood/home video/videogame based one? :rolleyes:

Not a valid response, just looking to get backs up I imagine. What's with the sarcasm??? Arse.

jf1981, I wonder if the feature you talk about are among those that are to be 'unocked' in the coming years as hardware is able to deal with the added. As for the Spitfire's FM, I have no basis to comment really other than it does feel remarkably stable when firing compared to a Hurricane but this could be accurate for all I know.

bando 04-24-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 272168)
I take it that you posted this helpful comment based on your experience flying real Spitfires, or your perception of "reality" is another Hollywood/home video/videogame based one? :rolleyes:

What an unbelievable rude response.

Question is valid as I feel the same ( feel, not know, as I never flew a spitfire). Hope the FM gets a bit maintenance in flying high and shaking as well.

jf1981 04-24-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 272168)
I take it that you posted this helpful comment based on your experience flying real Spitfires, or your perception of "reality" is another Hollywood/home video/videogame based one? :rolleyes:

Unfortunately not, certainly never will. No, it's based on the fact that on every Spi or 109 video you see on youtube, you could note they really seem light and flying like birds, I mean rolling left and right and taken up by the wind like a light bird.

Now I can't tell how close or far the sim is from that, but the feeling is'nt quite here yet, to me.

Of course at this stage, it all needs to be polished, there is no doubt every part of the game will have improvements. That one would be welcome (if of course it is indeed needed).

BTW you will just find out many videos of real spit in modern age filmed as they were restored and flown through shows, which are amazing ones.

Sternjaeger II 04-24-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seaeye (Post 272173)
Not a valid response, just looking to get backs up I imagine. What's with the sarcasm??? Arse.

jf1981, I wonder if the feature you talk about are among those that are to be 'unocked' in the coming years as hardware is able to deal with the added. As for the Spitfire's FM, I have no basis to comment really other than it does feel remarkably stable when firing compared to a Hurricane but this could be accurate for all I know.

because u just joined and didn't even make an effort to look at topics that already been discussed.. who's the arse now?!

When will people stop joining forums and go on about alleged problems of things they don't have an understanding of and:

1) don't make an effort and see if the thing is being discussed already

2) motivate their assertion with factual data/evidence?

your posts are a waste of space, get over it.

Sternjaeger II 04-24-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jf1981 (Post 272203)
Unfortunately not, certainly never will. No, it's based on the fact that on every Spi or 109 video you see on youtube, you could note they really seem light and flying like birds, I mean rolling left and right and taken up by the wind like a light bird.

Now I can't tell how close or far the sim is from that, but the feeling is'nt quite here yet, to me.

Of course at this stage, it all needs to be polished, there is no doubt every part of the game will have improvements. That one would be welcome (if of course it is indeed needed).

BTW you will just find out many videos of real spit in modern age filmed as they were restored and flown through shows, which are amazing ones.

I am lucky enough to fly with warbirds and vintage planes, and I can tell you that it's all down to how you act on your aeroplane controls. Another important thing to take into account is your joystick setup, have a bit of playing with it and see if you still get that "heavy" feeling.

jf1981 04-24-2011 12:37 PM

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because u just joined and didn't even make an effort to [...]
Please get moderated. Please don't take it personnaly.

jf1981 04-24-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 272216)
I am lucky enough to fly [...]

Hi,

Thanks. I'm gonna start lessons later in that year and we'll see.

Thanks for your advice.

Sternjaeger II 04-24-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jf1981 (Post 272217)
Please get moderated. Please don't take it personnaly.

I wasn't referring to you in particular, there's a lot of people here which make silly assumptions. You motivated your concerns better and I suggested you a possible solution, my reaction is annoyed and a bit rude maybe because it keeps on happening on this forum.

Good luck with the flying lessons, it will open a new world and answer a lot of questions.


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