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Nycro 03-14-2010 12:46 PM

People online annoy me
 
a recent trend I've noticed are groups of experienced players who group together in one big team. i generally have no problem with this but i would consider myself to be a reasonably experienced player and often find myself left in a team with players who honestly don't know what they are doing.
b-17 snobbery as i call it is a very annoying trend in which if their are sufficient players then an entire team with b-17's will group up and ruin it for the other team. this is why i went off call of duty because it is utterly dominated by the elite players who generally make it hard for others.
I'm not knocking all of them but it just makes the game unbearable.
This probably also contributes to the quiet servers at the moment, nobody wants to play when they know they have no hope of winning, honestly, it really sucks at the moment.
Another thing that boils my blood is Lypmne and Hawkinge on CTA, i'm always stuck with a bunch of fools who can't land on their own bloody airfield before the other team's fighter-bombers get there, then they fly around aimlessly despite victory still being attainable. i hate that map and single airfield maps are simply far superior. far more competitive and tactical.

InfiniteStates 03-14-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nycro (Post 149788)
Another thing that boils my blood is Lypmne and Hawkinge on CTA, i'm always stuck with a bunch of fools who can't land on their own bloody airfield before the other team's fighter-bombers get there, then they fly around aimlessly despite victory still being attainable. i hate that map and single airfield maps are simply far superior. far more competitive and tactical.

LOL really? I'm completely the opposite - 2 airfield maps are the only ones enjoyably playable IMO. One airfield = first to land generally wins. Especially if the spawn timer is 5 seconds, which it invariably is.

Nycro 03-14-2010 10:28 PM

i guess it depends really, i posted this thread out of pure fury after being repeatedly smashed on that map and of course the people who can't point their plane in the right direction.
But interestingly after posting this a change in tactics and some incredible luck
meant i owned the next couple of matches and unlocked a shiny new spitfire mk XVI. my luck is really strange. but i have had some of the best CTA matches iv'e ever had today.as well as some of the worst

The_Goalie_94 03-15-2010 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nycro (Post 149788)
b-17 snobbery as i call it is a very annoying trend in which if their are sufficient players then an entire team with b-17's will group up and ruin it for the other team. this is why i went off call of duty because it is utterly dominated by the elite players who generally make it hard for others.
I'm not knocking all of them but it just makes the game unbearable.

Another thing that boils my blood is Lypmne and Hawkinge on CTA, i'm always stuck with a bunch of fools who can't land on their own bloody airfield before the other team's fighter-bombers get there, then they fly around aimlessly despite victory still being attainable. i hate that map and single airfield maps are simply far superior. far more competitive and tactical.

About the B-17 thing... first things first, its a game, which means its meant to be for fun, and some people, like myself, like grouping up in B17's. Its well...realistic. Isn't that what the game is supposed to be?

And if you see someone who cant land or a group of people, well why dont you talk to them and teach them how? Who knows, you may make a new friend and group up in a few B-17's yourself and have fun. Its all about fun, from the people i have played with all say the same thing, its all for fun, know one is really competitive or if they are their good about it. And the group i know and play with are some of the nicest fellows around (i'm actually being serious here) and they are some damn good flyers. So try to have fun and be friendly, talk try to even out teams. Maybe you will start to have fun... not be so competitive.

Shadowcorp 03-15-2010 11:20 AM

it's true that some aces do make it especially hard on new players, For a time i myself was guilty of such.
As far as Strike and b17s go; the best bet is just to play in strike whoever has the most b17s will win..... I accepted this some time ago. I'm sure when you have your own b17 you will too.

winny 03-15-2010 11:41 AM

It happens.. If you fly outside of your group of friends then you can get into trouble, I got bounced by 4 people in a dogfight who were obviously not shooting at each other and were covering each other. I try and avoid dogfights because you can get stung.

The flip side is you can find yourself in a game where you're cycling through targets thinking 'I can't kill him he's a mate' so you opt for the ones you don't know.. When I made the move up to realistic I decided everyone was fair game.. except wookie... don't want to piss him off..

siteseeker 03-15-2010 02:01 PM

i like playing and don't really care if i lose a few or even half.... i like playing with friends from here but at the same time, don't mind being a target for them too. more than a few lop-sided Strike games, i jumped to the side of the fighters and parked the B17 just because i love to try and shoot B17's down =)

CRANNY 03-15-2010 03:50 PM

I am annoyed by people who get annoyed, wait a tick.......fly for fun!LMAO

Robotic Pope 03-15-2010 07:44 PM

My advice is to never play strike with random people. To have a good, FAIR game of strike you need everybodys cooperation to select a fair range of aircraft for each team. That is the only way it can be fun for both sides. If you join a game full of B-17s on the same side, leave imidiatly as these people are generally morons who care only for winning not a fun, close match. Thats the main problem with strike games, there is no skill involved in bombing. Bigger bombs = WIN. If only the game made the B-17 have to act like a heavy bomber with complex bomb aiming instead of physics defiing dive bombers, it would make the game more skillfull and fair.

P-47 just plain breaks the strike mode altoghther, no way should it have that size bomb that with unlimited ammo destroys any game fairness.

Really strike mode just plain sucks (apart for using it for Team dogfights) the devs messed up bad here.

BRIGGBOY 03-15-2010 08:03 PM

yeah but the p47 carried that amount so why should we not be able to use them in the game

Robotic Pope 03-15-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BRIGGBOY (Post 150029)
yeah but the p47 carried that amount so why should we not be able to use them in the game

Game Balence. In good multiplayer games powerfull weapons need more skill to use or are very limited in number. BoP strike mode has NO balence at all. A piloting god flying a stuka is going to get destroyed 100% every time by a zero skilled newb that has boosted to get a B-17.

Strike matches are 99.9% played with unlimited ammo. Where in the history books does it state that the P-47 had magical respawning bomb system?

If you do put limited ammo on then the game just degenerates into multiple kamikazi runs to the targets. Without any incentive to stay alive and not crash this mode just doesn't work imho. It needed a big reduction in tickets for each plane lost, 25 tickets maybe, not just 1. And it needed a home base to return to and rearm, repair at.

Lets face it, the multiplayer for this game is shit. Its fun to play with friends were you don't really care about scoring, but as a competative game against people you don't know it is very, very bad.

BRIGGBOY 03-15-2010 10:24 PM

are you on xbox or ps3

The_Goalie_94 03-16-2010 04:46 AM

people need to learn to take games for what they are, not customized to noe persons likings, a console game has to attract ALLOT of different types of gamers, so IL-2 BoP is made to attract ALLOT of gamers. The developers did a great job, its not IL-2 1946 but its not meant to be. People need to enjoy the game for what it is, not what it could be to their satisfaction.

bobbysocks 03-16-2010 05:43 PM

is this possible??
 
i have yet to play on line...never been there yet. so i am clueless as to what the perameters are. BUT is it possible if someone has their own server to create a room(s) for playing BoP and such? one that can be maybe regulated/moderated...different limits set...etc. i know a guy who is a whiz at computers...has servers...but is not a gamer. he would be willing to work on it if it is possible/feasible. or does the game system maunfacturers or the game developers have the monopoly on this??

SEE 03-17-2010 04:05 PM

You can set up private slots and limit the number of players who can join when you create and host a MP game. One sided matches will put people off for sure. I and most of the Xbox SIM regulars prefer to organise teams so that both have experienced pilots. Good comms is important in CTA, Strike and Team Battles but for some reason not all players wear headsets or, when they are, don't communicate. Low numbers partaking then single airfield......large numbers then two airfields are usually the best game options.

nuklhed808 03-17-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CRANNY (Post 149995)
I am annoyed by people who get annoyed, wait a tick.......fly for fun!LMAO

Heres a fun fact... In this game, if you get smoked by someone guess what? You RESPAWN!!!! It's a game guys, enjoy it. Now I know there is a high level of competition, and we all want to be Top Dog ruling the skies, but I think we all take this game WAY too seriously at times, me included. If a teammate can't land his plane, help him out (weren't we all in that same boat when we first played?) There are many, many players that are more willing to help than not. I also play socom confrontation, and the amount of A#@holery in that game is astronomical. IL-2 has for the most part a really good community. I for one am greatful for all the guys who helped me out when I started playing online. By the way, if a bunch of players group together to fly in B-17's come to terms with the fact that you're gonna loose, so do the next best thing... grab the baddest fighter you can fly,rack up the kills, smile, and enjoy!

Robotic Pope 03-19-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nuklhed808 (Post 150346)
By the way, if a bunch of players group together to fly in B-17's come to terms with the fact that you're gonna loose, so do the next best thing... grab the baddest fighter you can fly,rack up the kills, smile, and enjoy!

Yes that is fun if you exept that you will lose before the game even starts.
I often take my Me262 and watch the bombers disintergrate lol.


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Originally Posted by The_Goalie_94 (Post 150081)
people need to learn to take games for what they are, not customized to noe persons likings, a console game has to attract ALLOT of different types of gamers, so IL-2 BoP is made to attract ALLOT of gamers. The developers did a great job, its not IL-2 1946 but its not meant to be. People need to enjoy the game for what it is, not what it could be to their satisfaction.

Most of us do enjoy the game for what it is. But when you compare BoP to any other multplayer game you see how limited it is. People are used to games like call of duty and Battlefield with many options and different modes and differnet ways to play the game. And when a game like BoP can't even get scoring working right for a freeforall battle, that is shit in comparison. We have made the most of it because we have no other choise, no other WWII flight game (not arcade). Can you imagine if a game like BoP came out with a multiplayer as expansive as MW2 or BC2 with continued support from the developers and publisher fixing bugs and adding new content and other stuff we have come to expect from our games? No one would still be playing BoP thats for sure.

f1rebrand 03-19-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 150647)
Yes that is fun if you exept that you will lose before the game even starts.
I often take my Me262 and watch the bombers disintergrate lol.

I tried the Me262 in Strike but it has the turning circle of the Ark Royal. ;)

Robotic Pope 03-19-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by f1rebrand (Post 150649)
I tried the Me262 in Strike but it has the turning circle of the Ark Royal. ;)

lol yeah, but then the bombers tend to fly straight to their targets. I dive down on them at almost 500mph and nail them from long range with the 4 mk108s before they even know i'm there :-P

f1rebrand 03-19-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 150655)
lol yeah, but then the bombers tend to fly straight to their targets. I dive down on them at almost 500mph and nail them from long range with the 4 mk108s before they even know i'm there :-P

Cheers, I'll give it a shot.


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