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majorfailure 04-27-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 501916)
Hurri MkI v SM79 is interesting to a novice Hurri pilot :)

I' bet a lot of us learned that the hard way. The first time I tried to down one of these slow flying not too tough looking crates with a Hurri it took my entire ammo load but that darned thing stayed in the air. Now I only try to get a SM79 from behind when I brought at least 20mm cannons and lots of ammo for them with me.

K_Freddie 04-30-2013 12:09 AM

Surely you're not talking about a 'Low-n-Slow'/ or just 'slow' aircraft being hard to down ??

Somewhere .. sometime .. this rings a really Bad Bell
:cool:

K_Freddie 04-30-2013 12:21 AM

The real problem comes with the 'ground hogs', inability to accurately work out what the pilot is saying.

The biggest obstacle is that the 'groundhog' is just not in the pit when the story happens. The pilot has to deal with many variables 'on the fly', and make decisions based on education and experience. For the 'un-educated' these decisions are almost 'natural' and not worth mentioning ??

tango2delta 05-11-2013 06:15 AM

I do not know if this counts but I fly scale P-51D models, I have 2 that is 82" and about 30 to 40 pounds and let me tell you this, if you even breath wrong they will stall. And if you take off before you get your airspeed up it will snap roll. A P-51 will not fly tail heavy, if the CG is not right it will never leave the ground, it will but not for long. Now my 80" P-47 flies like a dream. I think the P-47 was the best U.S. built.

MaxGunz 05-11-2013 10:54 AM

If your models are scale right down to the airfoil curves then there's a little problem right there.

It just took me 10 minutes to remember the name that goes with it, it's about the Reynolds number which changes for wings as they get bigger or smaller.

The same shape airfoil works differently with different scale wings. What worked great for a bird worked less well for airplanes made before 1920 though the Gottingen thick wing used on the Fokker DrI and DVII went a good ways to fix that. Going from about 10 meter spread down to about 2 meters is going to be subject to a measure of that. But -only- if the curve of the wing is kept to scale.

I am wondering about controls on your models. Are the rudder, elevator and ailerons all controllable? I know of smaller models that only do rudder and elevator.

I also wonder if your controls are channel per axis direct like was done since long ago or if it's one channel wireless computer communication with a microcontroller in the plane? There's pluses and minuses either way.

horseback 05-11-2013 10:49 PM

There's also the little matter of Center of Gravity; unless your models are scale weight in the right places, it will have an effect as well.

cheers

horseback

MaxGunz 05-11-2013 11:00 PM

When I built model airframes the procedure was to attach a string at the balance point and whirl the sucker around. That went for model rockets too, IIRC.

tango2delta 05-11-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxGunz (Post 502622)
If your models are scale right down to the airfoil curves then there's a little problem right there.

It just took me 10 minutes to remember the name that goes with it, it's about the Reynolds number which changes for wings as they get bigger or smaller.

The same shape airfoil works differently with different scale wings. What worked great for a bird worked less well for airplanes made before 1920 though the Gottingen thick wing used on the Fokker DrI and DVII went a good ways to fix that. Going from about 10 meter spread down to about 2 meters is going to be subject to a measure of that. But -only- if the curve of the wing is kept to scale.

I am wondering about controls on your models. Are the rudder, elevator and ailerons all controllable? I know of smaller models that only do rudder and elevator.

I also wonder if your controls are channel per axis direct like was done since long ago or if it's one channel wireless computer communication with a microcontroller in the plane? There's pluses and minuses either way.

Yes, all controls work. elevator, ailerons, rudder and flaps. Even have to trim them out. They have air retract system for landing gear. When I say scale I mean 1/4 scale. I use a futaba T8FG Super TX/RX to fly them with. One is a Aeroworks P-51B the other is ESM ARFP.

MiloMorai 05-12-2013 12:03 AM

Does your model of the P-51D use scale control surfaces movement?

What airfoil does your model P-51D use?

tango2delta 05-12-2013 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MiloMorai (Post 502648)
Does your model of the P-51D use scale control surfaces movement?

What airfoil does your model P-51D use?

Yes, (scale control) I have that setup in my Radio. The airfoil is NACA Laminar-Flow. What I am trying to say is if my model planes fly like the real P-51D they where built for speed (Interceptor) and long flights. But in a dogfight you would surly have a bad day in a slow turn fight. It would snap roll in a flash and turn around and spin not even trying. The first time I flew my P-51D I did that same stunt in that video not intending to, I just got to slow in a turn and gave it some up elevator and boom. Almost lost it. That would be the one that is my pic at the left top.


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